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Posted : Oct 16, 2007 04:13
hi,
thx again for all the (serious) responses.
people,lets not make this a musical taste discussion but a technical discussion(about darkpsy).because otherwise its going to be a 5 page argument with 10 posts of valuable information.
So if any one of you guys knows good TECHNIQUES/TRICKS/VSTS(and how to use them in a dark way)/SAMPLES/whatever...
please share it(i know you got the know-how).
again-im not asking for some kind of "dark recipe"( i dont believe there is one and i dont believe there should be one,originality beats everything).
peace
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Rathead
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Posted : Oct 16, 2007 04:21
and skazi,
shut up!
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Rathead
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Posted : Oct 18, 2007 23:04
...and then it was quiet...
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demoniac
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Posted : Oct 21, 2007 02:57
@ rathead
turn on your sequencer and don't wate your time on this topic
try to make some sound and after some work than ask some advice
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Posted : Jan 10, 2011 02:21
I don't understand why there's all this bashing on dark... Is there some sort of contest of what style is the best I missed out on or something?
People, good music is good music. Whether it's 130bpm or 160 bpm shouldn't matter, as long as it has been produced with feeling...
Plasmorh
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Posted : Jan 12, 2011 23:55
why dark so hated?? --'
the most hated psy genre imo...
I want a spare brain.... or 2.
aciduss
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Posted : Jan 13, 2011 00:07
It is in its nature, music for the perturbed ones, they deserve to be hated.
JK
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Posted : Jan 13, 2011 03:15
because to the uninitiated (like me) it sounds like kick+bass plus either white noise or a harsh fm-sound on which you place dblue glitch (or effectrix) and press the random button until you reach a rhytmic effect.
i actually tried that right now and came up with a pattern that could for all i know have occurred in a track by highko, cosmo, furious and the like. i really couldn't tell the difference.
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 21:32
imo a place somwhere in my A$$ is dark because the fucking light is not allowed to shine into....
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Posted : Jan 15, 2011 07:18
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On 2011-01-13 03:15, Padmapani wrote:
because to the uninitiated (like me) it sounds like kick+bass plus either white noise or a harsh fm-sound on which you place dblue glitch (or effectrix) and press the random button until you reach a rhytmic effect.
i actually tried that right now and came up with a pattern that could for all i know have occurred in a track by highko, cosmo, furious and the like. i really couldn't tell the difference.
That's the thing - to the uninitiated ear, stuff like Furious just sounds like noise. I used to be into full on, liked some 'dark' but never really got into it. That's changed over the past year or so, though. In my opinion, the music of Kindzadza, Furious, et al, is the most cutting edge in terms of production in psytrance today. It's extremely technical to make. All of those glitches would have been done manually by chopping into the waveform and doing shit from there (seriously, dBlue Glitch is shit - such a horrible sound). It's a really technical style of music and I fucking love it. I don't find it dark either; it uplifts and energises me more than anything!
Also, there's different styles of 'dark' psy (or nighttime psy, as I prefer to call it). For example, the forest psy of Atriohm is nothing like the glitchy psy of Kindzadza...
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Posted : Jan 15, 2011 17:33
your first example is actually pretty listenable and reminds me of darkpsy back in 2003/2004 (used to love that stuff back then before i got into more melodic music). now i wouldn't want to listen to that music for a whole night, but mixed with some psytrance from around 2000 like the delta, early hux flux, koxbox and the like with maybe some penta thrown in, i'd love it
i know there's a lot of thought and work put into that music, but the second example still sounds like annoying random noise to me. different sounds for different folks. i only wish there was a decent amount of parties in my area not playing that glitchy sound all night long
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Posted : Jan 15, 2011 18:41
I've really been into Kindzadza's stuff lately. Very mind bending. Seriously, there's tons of different edits, lots of things going on. And I don't find it particularly harsh or 'dark' either, but more mental and madcap zany. His tracks have a tendency to make me laugh out loud with delight.
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Posted : Jan 15, 2011 18:43
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On 2011-01-15 17:33, Padmapani wrote:
your first example is actually pretty listenable and reminds me of darkpsy back in 2003/2004 (used to love that stuff back then before i got into more melodic music). now i wouldn't want to listen to that music for a whole night, but mixed with some psytrance from around 2000 like the delta, early hux flux, koxbox and the like with maybe some penta thrown in, i'd love it
i know there's a lot of thought and work put into that music, but the second example still sounds like annoying random noise to me. different sounds for different folks. i only wish there was a decent amount of parties in my area not playing that glitchy sound all night long
Fairy muff, man. I find both styles ultra psychedelic tbh. That's why I'm not so into full-on these days, it just doesn't warp my mind as it should and I find the structures and sounds have become too cliched and predictable.
That said, you can't beat some nice morning full-on at a big outdoor festival like Ozora, in the blistering sun, with loads of smiley, happy hippies dancing vibin' off each other.
psychedanic
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Posted : Jan 15, 2011 18:45
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On 2011-01-15 18:41, geekhorde wrote:
I've really been into Kindzadza's stuff lately. Very mind bending. Seriously, there's tons of different edits, lots of things going on. And I don't find it particularly harsh or 'dark' either, but more mental and madcap zany. His tracks have a tendency to make me laugh out loud with delight.
Innit, man! This stuff isn't dark in the slightest... it's just mad, silly music. I'm more likely to have a mid-dancefloor giggling session to this music than I am any other music tbh, because some of the sounds used actually do sound hilarious.
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Posted : Jan 15, 2011 19:15
3 or 4 years ago I used to listen a bit of dark too.. but not anymore.
I still remember names like hydraglyph, psychoz, sulima, megalopsy, narcosis, sekt, parametrik, xikwri neyrra, kalilaskov, nyarlthotep, phobos azazel, noise gust..
but not anymore.