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"Darkpsy is crap" parrots.

Pt.
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Aug 30, 2006 18:54
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On 2006-08-25 19:57, Pavel wrote:
Most of what i've heard doesn't even qualify as music sorry. I always hear those "Hey there's good stuff also" comments but after 2 years that i am aquainted with this genre the only audible artist for me is Ocelot. The rest are just no good.



If i'm not mistaking. Didnt you just LOVE the E-Jekt album which is in a sense "dark" in a full-on way? Come on Pavelbavel. Like Psykovsky goddamn it! Like him, adore him, praise him .. You need to like Psykovsky! He IS the most innovating and brilliant "dark" artist out there. - imo of course .

Taste is like the azz, it's split in half, and it stinks.
Transcendentalist


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Posted : Aug 30, 2006 19:26
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On 2006-08-30 18:37, mist wrote:
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On 2006-08-30 18:26, Transcendentalist wrote:
What i am really interested in is what he would have to say about dark music after i give a couple of buttons dipped in you know what.



imo, if you need drugs for music to sound good, then it never sounded good in the first place.




IMO I need drugs for the music to sound even better and to enhance the whole experience. Rest of the times its just fckin good.

And Detox i know nothing about him. But i definitely dont like the image he portrays on the forum. Maybe he has his reasons. But infering that all dark psy listeners are fools and Indian psy heads invariably have to work in a curry house speaks volumes about him. Its like me saying all greeks are like this

http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/meltingpot/jinx/399/jokes/Countries/Greece/Greek_Newlyweds.html

Peace...
DETOX
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Posted : Aug 30, 2006 21:16
Trancedental if you need drugs for the music to sound even better then either the music is not good enough in the first place or you find psychedelic trance too complicated and the drugs JUST GIVE YOU THE FEELING that music sounds better.Ofcourse there can also be a combination of both situations which is the worst case scenario in my humble opinion.Personally i believe that good music is the music that you can appreciate when you are tottally sober with no drugs,alcohol or any other substances.

By the way maybe i wouldnt make fun of that Indian guy if he didnt call me a thousand names before.Action brings reaction dont you think?But ofcourse noone blamed that guy for calling me a cocksucker and an asshole,its easier to call me a racist (even in a non direct way) since you disaggree with my positions and opinion in this topic           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
booka


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Posted : Aug 30, 2006 22:30
hey detoy!
you spoke about first opsis album!funny guy you are-inform yourself a bit and ask opsis by himself what happened arround his first album-he knowes the truth,very well,and as you like to say,he knowes it from first hand dude,but he got it black on white!
and you will never find andrea or marco here on this place-as they have to work serious-they dont have the time for this stupid shit
here-i also dont have the time,but i hate lies-and if i read such shit,i have to react-sorry!
maybe you heard a lot of things and blablabla -but be honest you dont have an document-so-shut up!
mist
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Posted : Aug 30, 2006 23:08
booka, i think detox's hand probably knows what it's talking about in this case....

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DETOX
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Posted : Aug 30, 2006 23:21
Ask Opsis?

Sorry to inform you but i happen to know Opsis in personal and trust me he knows very well what happened with his debut album,also Acidance knows what happened with their releases and money,Pagoda knows what happened with their releases and money,Starsound knows the same and ofcourse ZMA knows the same.

Yes i know that i wont find Marco and Andrea in any forum at all,not because they are busy though,if they trully were busy they would sell much more than they do,but since you seem to know them much better than me just go ahead and ask them about my story and come and tell us what they said,they got couple of spare minutes dont they?

As about documents ofcourse i dont have any,you see the bank gives you a receipt once the other side sends you any money,when the other side (in our case Wirikuta Distribution) doesnt send you any money at all then they got no document to give you.

Thanks for one thing though,from today and on i will make a special folder keeping all of my emails,maybe in the future in something like 4-5 years from now i will need to show them to some people,too bad i didnt kept these records at that time when i was part of Starsound,it would be nice to show them to some people today...           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
DETOX
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Posted : Aug 30, 2006 23:24
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On 2006-08-30 23:08, mist wrote:
booka, i think detox's hand probably knows what it's talking about in this case....



Mist you got any documents to prove that?

Ask Chris and Stamatis to give you any documents otherwise you are lying too LOL           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
dE.Tonatik
Detonatik

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Posted : Aug 31, 2006 02:03
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The problem, in my mind, is that what is promoted as being Dark music doesn't sound Dark to me..





its not dark ...its always been psychedelic ..its just a few ppl who name it & blame it as dark music ..to get out new genres and all of that ends up in changin the name of genres to make it more appealing to a particular kind of audience

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cosmic-divine-union
clown
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Posted : Aug 31, 2006 02:12
on a side note. Wirikuta paid me.. not alot of copies were sold by them, but i got my money without delays as they promised..

maybe its because im Italien.. hehehe           "VA - REWIRED" OUT NOW !! (techtrance invasion) ---> http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/86303/forum/9
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Pavel
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Posted : Aug 31, 2006 02:12
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On 2006-08-30 18:54, psytones wrote:
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On 2006-08-25 19:57, Pavel wrote:
Most of what i've heard doesn't even qualify as music sorry. I always hear those "Hey there's good stuff also" comments but after 2 years that i am aquainted with this genre the only audible artist for me is Ocelot. The rest are just no good.



If i'm not mistaking. Didnt you just LOVE the E-Jekt album which is in a sense "dark" in a full-on way? Come on Pavelbavel. Like Psykovsky goddamn it! Like him, adore him, praise him .. You need to like Psykovsky! He IS the most innovating and brilliant "dark" artist out there. - imo of course .

Taste is like the azz, it's split in half, and it stinks.




Yes, E-jekt is a bit dark, but is has nothing to do with this "screams and creepy noises over full on bassline" genre that we are duscussing here.           Everyone in the world is doing something without me
Transcendentalist


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Posted : Aug 31, 2006 09:16
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On 2006-08-30 21:16, DETOX wrote:
Trancedental if you need drugs for the music to sound even better then either the music is not good enough in the first place or you find psychedelic trance too complicated and the drugs JUST GIVE YOU THE FEELING that music sounds better.Ofcourse there can also be a combination of both situations which is the worst case scenario in my humble opinion.Personally i believe that good music is the music that you can appreciate when you are tottally sober with no drugs,alcohol or any other substances.




I am a simple person and i definitely wont try to hide the fact that it was the drugs which attracted me to the music. Hold on to your sticks and stones for i am not a purist, I liked the D's before i started liking the music.

Though it was a different thing once i started to understand the music better. But i wont be hypocritical and state that i got (Please note "got" not staying) into the scene just for the love of music.

I however do agree on your last statement. You can definitely enjoy music when you're sober. Hell the strongest drug i have had in the past 7 months is Alcohol and i havent seen any signs of my psychedelic lifestyle changing.

But i am still absolutely in love with Dark Music. My track of the day

Matutero - Butter on the Dark Side

KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Aug 31, 2006 12:04
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On 2006-08-30 18:43, psytones wrote:
Are you telling me that you get the exact same effect from a track as if your straight as when your on the moon?



It's not the f*****g subject, PSYTONES !

And to go into your direction, even when I'm on the moon there remains Music that i can't stand ! Punto..

Now, cut the narcotic aspect, will we ? It has nothing to do with the initial subject.           .
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"Get your dose of BoOgie !"

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Pt.
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Posted : Aug 31, 2006 12:51
Here, have a dildo. Use it.
Pavel
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Posted : Aug 31, 2006 12:53
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On 2006-08-31 12:51, psytones wrote:
Here, have a dildo. Use it.


Seriously man, not every discussion has to end with "drugs, good or bad issue".           Everyone in the world is doing something without me
Pt.
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Posted : Aug 31, 2006 12:56
The drug discussion started long before I entered the thread.

Whats the topic btw Kako?

I always wonder what motivates a person to repeat this arbitrary statement everywhere dark psy is mentioned. (Perhaps these people are taking their taste in music as being objectively founded?)

The quality of the tracks are mostly amateurish, and the music may not be the most refined at times, but there's good, innovative and psychedelic music to be found in that genre if you shift through the muck for a bit.

I don't listen to much in that genre, and not very often, but sometimes only a good listening session of sense overloading dark psy does the trick for me.


If dark oriented music is good or not? That people should stop beeign blind and open up their eyes/ears .. Because there IS good dark psy. Yeah, you, you who sais that it's just plings and plongs on a rolling 4/4 beat? Taste is taste, but try to open up your more objective point of view?

Answer: Both good and bad. Like everything else. Including me.
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