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dark stuff is easier to mix....no??
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UnderTow
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Posted : Jun 8, 2006 18:37
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On 2006-06-08 03:36, Colin OOOD wrote:
I just counted the tracks in Undertow's tune and although they may be numbered up to 126 I only counted 66 active playback tracks in that arrangement... with 81 active playback tracks in our tune I still reckon my virtual production penis is bigger than Alistair's  
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I am not worthy!  In my defence though, that wasn't a finished track. It was only about 2 mins of music at the time of the screenshot.
What amazes me most is that you bothered counting. I was too lazy to do that.
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fregle
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Posted : Jun 8, 2006 19:17
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i think it's easier to mix... hardest is suomi, then comes old skool and nitzhonot, then full-on and progressive, then dark and psytech... In fact, you can throw almost anything on almost anything, as long as you don't fuck up the energy curve from one song to the next you can hardly go wrong when mixing dark... Even derango... Just watch your EQ... |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 8, 2006 19:24
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On 2006-06-08 18:37, UnderTow wrote:
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On 2006-06-08 03:36, Colin OOOD wrote:
I just counted the tracks in Undertow's tune and although they may be numbered up to 126 I only counted 66 active playback tracks in that arrangement... with 81 active playback tracks in our tune I still reckon my virtual production penis is bigger than Alistair's
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I am not worthy! In my defence though, that wasn't a finished track. It was only about 2 mins of music at the time of the screenshot.
What amazes me most is that you bothered counting. I was too lazy to do that.
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Yeah. I'm a bit anal about things like that; I'm not proud of it. 
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Jun 11, 2006 12:26
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On 2006-06-07 13:48, scobbah wrote:
Gees, and I thought the main subject the scene revolved around was music written musicians, not CDr-DJ's doing coke on stage waving their hands and getting credit for all the hard work the musicians put into this to actually allow the DJ to have anything to spin at all.
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Kaz
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Posted : Jun 12, 2006 01:57
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Back to the point - the more minimal melodically the music, the simpler it is to make a mix sound good from a harmonic perspective. Dark tracks tend to use the same base note and have very few melodies - so a harmonic clash between two tracks is much rarer, and if you don't mix bass (just switch from one track to another's bassline/bassdrum) then without any melodies you will never get a bad sounding harmonic side to the mix.
There are problems like mixing a track with a melody that's on a major scale of one note and another track on the same base note but on a minor scale - and you can get a lot of dissonance in your mix, something that is an instant turnoff for the ear (in most cases).
That's why mixing more melodic stuff is more complex at times. Of course, if you know a bit of chord progression and know what scales the tracks are on, you can build your set with very deep harmonic progression - tracks which sound totally different could suddenly sound very impressive when played one after another.
And of course, people could be totally anal and label each track with bpm, scale, and the first melodically empty location for a clean mix - and then you could avoid these problems to a great extent. DJs that do this very well: Talvin Singh, DJ Shadow, Underworld, umm, all Ninja Tunes DJs, etc...
If you'll notice, a lot of albums are structured this way, it gives them a 'story' quality, or at least is one of the attributes of it. Hallucinogen - The Lone Deranger is organized in such a way, one of the reasons this album is still so fun to hear.
Most DJs learn how to structure their sets from a harmonic perspective with experience and make it work for them, for instance changing bpms radically when changing tracks (Timo from Texas Faggot does this a lot), but there are musical rules for abything that works with melodies - can't harm you to know these. http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222 |
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