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dark stuff is easier to mix....no??
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Norman BeatZ
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Posted : Jun 7, 2006 09:59
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hmm isnt melodic supposed to sound clear and dark dark ? 
What i mean is that just because the sound is clearer it doesnt necessarily have to make it better...
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splinter
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Posted : Jun 7, 2006 11:38
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On 2006-06-05 19:26, e-motion wrote:
who needs breaks for mixing? techno is the easier style to mix and barely has breaks. having no breaks is easier has it won't give you problems if you don't know the track.
PS: well i can even say that for me eskimo is the hardest to play in the set because it has so many breaks and most of them unexpected unless you know the track. altough mixing eskimo has an easy part because when you switch the bass it always feels good when you have a beat like that 
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Takes Deeeeeppp Breath
who needs breaks???....ok so when there is a break and both ur tracks at that point dont have any bass or kick playing and u switch the bass so then the beat comes back in and the bass changed and it sounded like such a smooth song change....now in dark stuff you got no break so ur basicly just having a bass play then at 16 or 32 the bass just changes....yea sounds way smoother and if you havnt noticed im being sarcastic.
people who produce dark should have more respect for the dj's and make some breaks.
and about not knowing you track ur playing.
who plays a track that they dont know in a party ?... (let me add another 3 dots)...
you don't play a track u never heard or mixed in a party...if u do then I can see why you disagree with me....but most of the time I can mix a track i havnt ever mixed unless its got no breaks..i mean i can still mix it but it wont sound as good as with a break at all.
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phobium
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Posted : Jun 7, 2006 13:34
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On 2006-06-07 11:38, neuromyth wrote:
people who produce dark should have more respect for the dj's and make some breaks.
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Dj's should have more respect for music and learn how to mix.
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scobbah
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Posted : Jun 7, 2006 13:48
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On 2006-06-07 11:38, neuromyth wrote:
people who produce dark should have more respect for the dj's and make some breaks.
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Gees, and I thought the main subject the scene revolved around was music written musicians, not CDr-DJ's doing coke on stage waving their hands and getting credit for all the hard work the musicians put into this to actually allow the DJ to have anything to spin at all.
I guess I must've been wrong all the time then.... (yes, I love being a cynic so take this with a pinch of salt, will you?). 
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Shaqattack
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Posted : Jun 7, 2006 15:44
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On 2006-06-07 13:48, scobbah wrote:
Gees, and I thought the main subject the scene revolved around was music written musicians, not CDr-DJ's doing coke on stage waving their hands and getting credit for all the hard work the musicians put into this to actually allow the DJ to have anything to spin at all.
I guess I must've been wrong all the time then.... (yes, I love being a cynic so take this with a pinch of salt, will you?).
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heheheh point taken...
no one i denying the artist the credit tho....
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Pt.
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Posted : Jun 7, 2006 16:52
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I almost got a hard on. Which track is this?
:: Isn't chill the easiest genre to mix? Since we’re talking difficulties. Speaking trance, isn't 90% of the "Full-On" releases (thinking baseline) also the easiest genre to mix? It's just about tuning in the bpm and no one will notice the difference.
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Stranger_GR
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Posted : Jun 7, 2006 19:17
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UnderTow
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Posted : Jun 7, 2006 22:59
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On 2006-06-07 16:52, psytones wrote:
I almost got a hard on. Which track is this?
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As that gets you so excited, here is another picture with a large track count. Don't cream your pants. 
http://home.casema.nl/ajohnston/MD_Full.png
As for how hard mixing is ... well alot of dark stuff isn't very melodic but rather alot of (random) rythmical noises. That doesn't make it hard to mix though. As long as you can hear the kick, there is no problem. It is harder to select tracks if they have to fit together musicaly.
As for no breaks, so what? That only makes it easier. Just mix anywhere at the end of a 8/16/32/64 bar phrase ...
Oh and one more thing, most DJs have done ping-pong sets so it isn't totaly unusual to have to mix out of unknown tracks. Luckily, dance music, by definition, is predictable. You can tell a mile ahead that something is going to happen. You might not know exactly what, but you know a change is coming.
PS: There are some tracks that are hard to mix for instance, there is a track I wrote a long time ago that a friend wanted to include in his DJ set. I forgot to mention to him that it has alot of tempo changes in it: It would constantly slowly go up in BPM untill the next break (1 or 2 BPM). He couldn't figure out why he couldn't beat-match the track. Lol.
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splinter
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Posted : Jun 7, 2006 23:54
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On 2006-06-07 13:34, phobium wrote:
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On 2006-06-07 11:38, neuromyth wrote:
people who produce dark should have more respect for the dj's and make some breaks.
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Dj's should have more respect for music and learn how to mix.
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dude common....u can still mix without breaks but it sounds wayyy better if they are breaks...im just saying peeps who don't make breaks either don't give a shit about dj's or don't want there music played out there. |
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splinter
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Posted : Jun 7, 2006 23:58
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fine I maybe rong since my friends r telling me I am but this is my opinion |
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phobium
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Posted : Jun 8, 2006 03:28
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On 2006-06-07 23:54, neuromyth wrote:
dude common....u can still mix without breaks but it sounds wayyy better if they are breaks...im just saying peeps who don't make breaks either don't give a shit about dj's or don't want there music played out there.
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In some tracks I put a lot of breaks, in others not many. But I never put breaks in my tracks to make it easier for djs to mix. If a dj wants to play one of my tracks but decides not to, due to the lack of breaks - fine by me.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 8, 2006 03:36
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phobium
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Posted : Jun 8, 2006 03:43
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On 2006-06-08 03:36, Colin OOOD wrote:
The track is OOOD vs. Voice of Cod - Scramble (unreleased as yet).
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*renames a Sd6 track to OOOD vs. Voice of Cod - Scramble*
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Colin OOOD
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phobium
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