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Dark Psy
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Pt.
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Posted : Dec 18, 2007 04:25
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On 2007-12-18 04:15, Freeflow wrote:
stuff that makes you think the music going backwards and forwards at the sametime...
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lol yeah. Makes time stand perfectly still in the stranges way. Amazing effect.
There is one Bluetech track that does this beautifully. Can't remember the name. But again, lol at your words 
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Freeflow
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Posted : Dec 18, 2007 04:44
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Hey Psytones!
Never heard Bluetech so i went to his myspace and wow man wonderful music 
if you remember the track name please do tell would love to hear..
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Pt.
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Posted : Dec 18, 2007 05:03
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Dec 18, 2007 07:11
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On 2007-12-17 16:13, Galaxian wrote:
personally i love dark music.
because dark side of the mind has many many secrets and unknown emotions.
its too fast and it sounds funny.
unnecesary fast tracks for ppl on drugs.
thats not cool for me im not using drugs and i feel stupid to dance at 160 bpm fast track.
i dont say that there arent good artists, no, there are, but for someone which isnt prepared to explore the darkpsy scene which is huge it all sounds all the same - just as fullon.
for me darkpsy releases today are bullshit. too fast, samples are usually very lame and production is very bad too
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True ..
Also can't understand why ppls so hurry and to wher .. ? .
I dont like the fast music because there is not many artist today with the talent to creat an right & sharping dark tracks . Fast (160 + Bpm) Sound realy ridiculous when there is not any stability with the tones . Bass kik (Who supposed to lead the track) Sound dry , Hollow , Far , Not strong enough from what i thing are needed , From what i expectant from an real dark music . Its not a secret that all the down area of the bass kik are loseing they real power at those bpms , Sounds sound smeared and all those high shrieking screaming fx's that take control and conceal and hiding the real thing - The basis of all , (What the track are built up on) The bass and the kik . Backround thats geting wild and kill the flow , The rhythm , The stream .
What so bad with an real , Good and powerfull music when (And at the same time) Can hear whats going on in to the track . 136-148 . Belive me thats better .
Less drugs , more right and quality produce for an better music !
P.s - And pls dont tell me now all thos bullsh** about hearing the music better and that , Its an jabbering and nonsense and without any clear and normal sense (Maybe you think it is at the same moment but its only your own individual private feeling and thought inside of you , Imagination deceit and delusion) .
I like listening to tracks in the 'New tracks' Section , When i hear a track i can understand and see immediately how its done (With an drugs or Without - Even if its not so fast - The Bpm) . I use drugs like 12 years and now im year without and you dont know how good and great feeling is - An new frequencys are open for me now like i born from new , Its realy hard to explane that . I can hear at the 'new tracks' section an realy bad mix's from artists that i would expectant for realy more , That (For me) start being repulsive , Not serious and pro .
No need to rush .. Use your own brain and talent (Without any 'mind instrument' on the road) For an better vocational and skilled sound . |
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mk47
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Posted : Dec 18, 2007 07:28
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darkpsy is the new fullon
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agree .. too much rubbish low quality senseless bang bang past few years .. another good thing ruined
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NIKTHEQUICK
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Posted : Dec 18, 2007 19:33
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to me it was a natural evolution of species:
-was listening to house first....(liked the ibizian girls...still do...hehehe)
-then techno...(liked the german way.....ahaha)
-then dnb (never completely left it) and hard house/trance....
-and finally in 2000 i was taken to an infected mushroom party (dont listen to them anymore!!)...obviously at the beginning i loved all the morning artists ( i believe also because the music was better...meaning more varied and less commercial) ...then things changed....because i needed more stimulation.....
-now most of the time night music but some finnish, funky, jazz give a good alternative choice!
....it was a physical mental and especially spiritual journey....to reach the level where, talking about parties and dancing, my ritual is an intense experience that stimulates the brain and my soul, releasing all the bad energies in me and meet lots of new people to have a good time together.....
i followed the music that brought this to me.....not all night music...cos people are right in saying a lot of it is not the standard it should be......
personally i respect all music...and people who listen it....but there are a few observations.....very subjective and with no means i intend to offend anyone:
-all the last festivals where full on or progressive music was played i heard tracks being played more times......little variety....full moon 2 years ago classic ex......all dark= innovative.....talamasca skazi etc=having to play remixes or doubles...
-there is an association, i dont what kind but there is, between amphetaminic drugs....or how i call them: "dirty" and full on/morning......
this to me often translates into a bad vibes dancefloor...example: a few parties in brazil...all people on pills.....loads of the "best full on"...no psychedelia anywhere!!!! (please leave UP out....not refering to that...but mainstream parties which i dont think there is a place they became soo commercial...not even london after a long period of "commercialization" of the scene)
- most of progressive is not psickedelic enough.....different music!
- cant tell me that osom is too fast and looses the point....and quality....is all about how fast you are/want to travel in the spiritual cosmo....or how fast you wanna reach the "blissful state"......or paradise...or shiva if thats the case...
not a trancer that is distiguishing himself....just really want to know if after years of morning you can still reach that level.....???
i need more...
aum namah shivaya
PS reflexive point?? why also in the same place where it all began: goa......last year and the one before people had to stand morning music being played at most parties...curlies all the time and they told me hilltop too....with the same tracks djs and composers......playing the same things...
why?....no variety...progressive, no finnish, little south african no etc, just full on over and over....??
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Zman
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Posted : Dec 29, 2007 00:52
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Well i consider myself very lucky to have been blessed by being introduced to this genre of music very early - just a few months before my teen years. It was never about the drugs and at that point there was a lot of innocence. It was just music that sounded "different" and sounds and samples that captivated my senses. I only hit my first party after long bike journeys with my high school seniors when i just turned teen  and the whole excitement of driving far far away to stomp out in the woods gave me the thrills. The innocence still remained for a year or two during which i was still unsure about why "people dance so crazily." I just passed it off thinking that they were having a howling good time and sure they were! I remained completely clean till i was about 16 or so which was when i had my first  and i had my first psychedelic experience only in 2006 when i turned 18. So in a way i am glad that i developed an appreciation for this music well before i actually associated it with any substance. So it was pretty much a purely music related attraction to me, that began my romance with this genre of music 
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Djones
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Posted : Dec 29, 2007 01:03
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On 2007-12-17 16:13, Galaxian wrote:
i feel stupid to dance at 160 bpm fast track.
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Now that's a very cliche point you just mentioned.
Is it really just the 160 Bpm music?
Or is it all dark psy music?
If' you're serious you would know that most Dark psytrance isn't really faster than 150 bpm.
So are you trying to say, you can't dance on Dark Psy at all, or just on the 160 Bpm and hihgher Dark Psy? |
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The Journey Man Project
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Posted : Dec 29, 2007 04:57
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I just think people are still so afraid of the darker side of human nature... and why not? it is scary... worshipping evil "gods", murder, rape, hate, pain and sufferingall give us fear at some point... any you cannot deny that most "dark psy" explores this quite intensly, with samples and atmosphere... like the darker side of heavy metal... but once you accept that this dark side of yourself is just as important as the happy go luck or every day self, it becomes much easier to accept life, and also to accpet styles of expression that explore the dark side... I've seen animal sacrifices done in Nepal, I've seen a proper ritual in worship of Sathanas... I've done work experience with a coroner and seen what a human can do to another... and I"m not condoning any of this, but it exists, and it is good to explore and accept it...
seriously, without darknees theire is no light, with hate there is no love, with our pain there is no pleasure and without "dark psy" the sunrise would not seem so amazingly beautiful 
it all fits together, stop the hate and enjoy the music...
I'm givinh upmy hate of full on, I just pretend it does not exist muahahaha
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Elad
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Posted : Dec 29, 2007 15:59
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fullon is the new goa
dark psy is the new fullon with lower undertone and faster bpm
progy is also new fullon but with only half synth play and the rest is delay with lower bpm
bpm is the bew korg
korg is the new virus
virus is the new psytrance
psytrance is the new rock
rock is the new stone
stone is the new wasted
wasted is the new dead
dead is me
im the new ruberoid
(wtf????)
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Galaxian
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Posted : Dec 29, 2007 16:10
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On 2007-12-17 16:13, Galaxian wrote:
i feel stupid to dance at 160 bpm fast track.
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Now that's a very cliche point you just mentioned.
Is it really just the 160 Bpm music?
Or is it all dark psy music?
If' you're serious you would know that most Dark psytrance isn't really faster than 150 bpm.
So are you trying to say, you can't dance on Dark Psy at all, or just on the 160 Bpm and hihgher Dark Psy?
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well, no. i took the 160 bpm as an example...becuase i heard the 160bpm track...and it sux...
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Hunter S.T.
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Posted : Dec 29, 2007 22:35
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It's not about speed, there is music which goes fast but with the frequencies and effects and the ambiance that has inside it seems v ery slowly and also there is music which is at 146bmp but seems very fast.
To me which discovered this music also without drug and being at the parties this deep effects that has on me that was the most interesting thing. And afterwars the dark side of us is always there and indeed many people are scared to look at themself realy, and there is when it comes to that darker side. For me is very important factor dark oriented psytrance, it's this mystical part that touches me and not at all drug oriented side. It depends all on yopu how do you see it and how do you perceptions are.
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Posted : Jan 3, 2008 17:24
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darkpsy is the music evolution fo suure
boom 2all the artists that really keep on going further and further with the psysounds and are into the psyexploration
sometimes when the music is travelling you so gud u feel like u had taken everything while u really didnt
its not the drugs its only the music
i heard a track in 170 bpm once that i liked, some others i heard i dint, so it depends... and iz not only the bpm that mks the diference
i think "dark" doesnt really express wat this music iz
but it iz the name that distinguises it from other kinds
just to pass the idea that wat u gonna listen to is something more.. like the dark steps of the mind...
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Zman
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Posted : Jan 3, 2008 19:12
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I don't see why people fail to understand the irrelevance of BPMs in this thread. You can have 170 BPM full-on tracks as well. Want to know what it sounds like? Take one of those Sesto Sento tracks and pitch them up & maybe then you will truly figure out how bad high bpm music can be : )
Dark relates to sounds & atmospheres that omit the "night time" vibe. This is subjective & anything that each of us relate to the night. There is GREAT low BPM music as well that happens to be "Dark" music. An example of this is the Ghreg on Earth - Sigilweaver album from 2004 which had exquisitely psychedelic night time music even at 142-144 bpm.
I am personally not a big fan of high BPMs myself. 154 is usually as far as i take it, but on occasion things at 160 are acceptable too.
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Alias
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Posted : Jan 3, 2008 20:05
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no. it's not about bpm. there is classic tracks with high bpm such
Astral Projection - Mahadeva (150bpm)
Juno Reactor - Conga Fury (160bpm)
Pigs In Space - Solar (150bpm)
its about really anoying "fat" rolling non melodic bassline on high bpm.....and random non melodic sounds
especially this - saw? - sound with boosted resonance almost every dark psy producer used this sound.....thats why some ppl call it toilet sounds. its really sounds like bubbling toilet water. LOL
and of course scary samples from movies
thats why this music sounds more stupid than copypasting fullon !
and about innovation in dark psy......plz somebody give me an examples of tracks that innovative and what is exactly innovative in this music: kickbass , drumspercussions , leads , pads , structure , arrangement....etc!
only one that comes to my mind right now is Psykovsky - ones i heard track on his myspace page.....something really twisted and innovative - and the most important - melodic! really weird and unusual track!
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