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dark psy help!!!

Moss
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Posted : Aug 18, 2011 16:34:26
Hi,im new in psy trance production.
I need some tips how to create powerfull dark psy track.


minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Aug 18, 2011 19:01
I will teach you, no problem.

Just follow the link:
http://www.minddoctorsmakeacid.com/course/bookAlesson.php           http://www.MindDoctorsMakeAcid.com
Moss
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Posted : Aug 19, 2011 12:56
thx man but i need some free tips, i know how to build bassline and percusions but i have problem with PADs,SFX and FX buildap and EQ-ing
dharmatronic
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Posted : Aug 19, 2011 13:21
Hey Moss,

Don’t be lazy, man, and please use “search”…

Also try here: www.psytuts.com

And you won't learn everything (PADs, FX, buildup, EQ, master ) at same time in one day... you would earn loads of time by paying some to teach you. Assure you that.

Tip: get a track you like and try to clone it. Then bring your doubts.

=)
          always learning...

http://soundcloud.com/dharmatronic
Moss
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Posted : Aug 19, 2011 13:35
Thx man very useful stuff,thx for link...!!!
I know if I pay that would be quickest,but I have no money im just a student.
Moss
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Posted : Aug 19, 2011 13:55
very nice tuts but this is also for psytrance.
I was watch alot tuts on youtube but there are just tuts for psytrance.
I can t find tutorials for dark psy,something like Goa Gil or Nommos...





or






I wanna produce something like that but i dont know how to start..
sorry for my bad english
Svampe
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Posted : Aug 19, 2011 16:48
Hey, I really like andys tutorials! so check them out if you haven't already
http://www.youtube.com/user/AndysPsyTutorials
wizanda
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Posted : Aug 19, 2011 17:35
Do you think with the course, you could teach someone to write dark psy, if they only write happy psy.           www.wizanda.com www.soundcloud.com/wizanda
aciduss
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Posted : Aug 19, 2011 18:20
First you have to sell your soul to the devil.

You can try
http://www.wewantyoursoul.com/

And then you just download this plugin:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/869.html

Then you sample babies crying and women screaming, dorks barking, crystal breaking and use a lot of:
http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/

And:
http://www.gersic.com/plugins/hosted/darkware/darkware.html

For bassline download Alien303 because it is the only plugin with darkpsy presets others are no no, alien is so dark you wont believe also at 666bpm it activates special feature and unlocks mind control fq to turn dancefloor into zombie horde right away.


There.
Moss
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Posted : Aug 19, 2011 19:17
OMG thanx alot man i find some veri useful plugin.
I like dark psy beacouse i like powerfull bassline and space FX.
Thx alot for links
Moss
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Posted : Aug 19, 2011 19:58
but i dont know why u post first link
Suloo
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Posted : Aug 19, 2011 20:10
hey aciduss..im curious about this FM Spiralator..do you got that vst? since its not availoable anymore could you up the plugin maybe?

thx           -------......-------...-..-..-..-.-.-.-.-
mudpeople
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Posted : Aug 19, 2011 22:49
Experiment a lot. Follow your crazy. Be weird. Have fun. Do it for a laugh.

Find a good program that works for you, they all have benefits and downsides, none of them are magic keys to quality sound. Try all of them if you can.

Find good synths that make the sounds you want. You don't have to pay or download either, there's so many great freeware, Ive been digging around for free VSTs for about 7 years now and still find hidden free gems. 90% of the plugins I use are free. For a good synth to start with I recommend Synth1, its pretty easy to use, and VERY easy to make cool sounds with. Ive used Synth1 since I started using VSTi's, and still f new sounds from it. Plus there's thousands of presets all over and even a preset generator.

For basslines, you can try using 303-emulators, Alien303 is good despite its reputation and will make dark-type basses without any effort or knob-tweaking and would make a great starter bass synth for a beginner. You can always replace it with something else later. My problem with the Alien303 is that it ONLY does Alien303 sound. But if its good enough, go for it! Don't forget that there are other bass synths, each with their own sound character. I recommend trying TAL Bassline and Elektrostudio Micromoon just to name 2, just to get an idea of other possibilities

Thats pretty much the bottom line; if it does what you want it to do (synths, fx, programs, whatever), use it! Its first about learning to properly use the tools that do the job you want to do. You can use an axe to pound a nail but a hammer does it so much better. Its pretty much like that.

I would say, get to know the style you want to make. Get to know how others do it, so you can take their ideas and build your own out of them. Get to know the general structure of it, like how long tracks usually are, how often changes happen, how many stops and starts there are, but not to copy them, only to understand what makes it different than other styles, and only in a basic sense.

There is no right way, and Id say the only wrong way to do it is to do it for any reason at all, except that you enjoy it. Not to impress people, not to be cool, not to party all the time, cuz none of those are going to happen... UNLESS your music is clean enough, interesting enough, and sounds like you're not just making music but, sorta connecting your heart to the computer and letting it download the music it always is making.

Its important too never take it too seriously. It WILL NOT be easy, it WILL NOT be quick, it WILL mean sitting at the computer for literal YEARS of your life, it WILL be frustrating...

But, with dedication, determination, willpower, and effort, eventually, you WILL be able to make your artistic vision real, your heart WILL sing through it, and all the effort will be worth it.

Trust yourself, too, when you think something sounds good, don't worry too much about just HOW good, or how unique it sounds. The sound can be fixed later, focus first on getting your whole idea out into the computer, try to finish a general outline of the track quickly, before you lose sight of the idea. Once you have the general skeleton of a track you're free to polish and mess around how you like.

Feel, more than think, when you're writing a track. Feel the rhythms hiding in it and ride them. They tend to tell you how they want to sound if you listen.

          .
aciduss
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Posted : Aug 19, 2011 23:10
Quote:

On 2011-08-19 20:10, Zork wrote:
hey aciduss..im curious about this FM Spiralator..do you got that vst? since its not availoable anymore could you up the plugin maybe?

thx




There's the catch mate Only elite darkpsy producers own the Spiralator. Gatta work on being worthy dude, i'm tellin u.
aciduss
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Posted : Aug 19, 2011 23:15
Hmmmmkay then...

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