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Freymuth
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Posted : Nov 21, 2011 07:03:09
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minus
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Posted : Nov 21, 2011 11:23
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sounds r pretty decent brew, trippy and with some decent flowz,, what u using ? fruityloopz? or what? 1st track is decent, but 2nd track ,, kick is too low and weak,, u need better kick, it will bring out rest of the sounds with it,and i suggest u work on some deep note atmospherics, and some nice lead elements,make some nice breaks using imagination and surprise, other than that rest you on good path,keep working mang
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L66
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Posted : Nov 21, 2011 16:25
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Hey Freymuth, i agree with minus on this one, second track needs a bit more low end as it all sounds very monotone and flat. Maybe try alternate more frequently between sounds/effects and let them battle for space in the mix to make it more interesting. Also the bassline is what should glue your track together so it can push forward and not feel like a constant limbo all the way through.
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Freymuth
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Posted : Nov 22, 2011 06:57
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Hey minus and L66, thanx for your opinions.
Im using Ableton Live for the production, and found it quite stange that you gave me a negative feedback on the kick and bass of the second track. Must be from the bass calibration of my speakers, I have Logitech 2.1 soundsystem, nothing fancy, ahahah
In this moment Im trying to find out how to get this realy fat kick and bass from scratch and maybee on the second one I overexageratet with it, knocked it over with a amp bass distortion.
I use Operator to make both of them.
Over to the Atmospheres, on the first one they are all made from scratch, but on the second I used Absynth 5 for most of them, just got it new, was realy exited and put tons of crazy soundscapes in it. But im still looking out how to make my own.
One critique I had one both works already was the percussion work, what do you think of them?
Well, anyway, thank you for your enriching comments, I apreciate them very much. As more, better
Regards, and Im still open to recieve more coments.
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vipal
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Posted : Nov 22, 2011 07:46
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Freymuth
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Posted : Nov 22, 2011 10:01
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Thanx vipal.
How can I know that I get suficient bass frequencys?
I try to work sometimes with the spectrum analyser, but not always I get the sound I want out of the bass even there seam to be a lot of low frequencys in it.
For sure some good studio monitors or decent headphones would give a precise result, but isn't there another way to find out?
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L66
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Posted : Nov 22, 2011 11:30
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On 2011-11-22 10:01, Freymuth wrote:
Thanx vipal.
How can I know that I get suficient bass frequencys?
I try to work sometimes with the spectrum analyser, but not always I get the sound I want out of the bass even there seam to be a lot of low frequencys in it.
For sure some good studio monitors or decent headphones would give a precise result, but isn't there another way to find out?
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A spectrum analyzer will show you the frequencies yes this is true, but you are making music you need to listen with your ears not your eyes - if you are half serious about music get yourself some decent monitors.
It's like trying to paint the Mona Lisa on an envelope instead of a large canvas, it can be done for sure but whether it will still look like the Mona Lisa when your done is a different story - there is only so much you can hear/judge on computer speakers.
You will miss the accurately produced tight bass that extends low into the regions you need for this type of music without monitors and you will miss the nice even mid's as most consumer speakers have forward high's and forward bass frequencies (smiley EQ).
What you need to is go to a music store and demo some monitors and let your ears be the judge cause you will be the one non stop in front of them.
It's about trusting your ears that's why you need the proper tools to give you a more truthful response and you will slowly learn where your speakers are lacking because no speaker is perfect but with training your ears and getting used to your speakers you make up for where it is lacking with eq and other tools.
Hope this helps you.
Peace.
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Nov 22, 2011 14:38
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Yea .. Thats cool ! And thats always work .. Militant vs tripish high sounds - That create an real space and spatial feeling (To be in and between) . I feel your down area neet be more wet , Live , Here and near , With us .. I want to dig but bass and kik (When there are realy cool - Technique) Are not 'Doing the work' (For me) By holding the all track/Take me realy down - Its just there far away , Put more effects on the down area let them lead the track . Hh work need . try mix your tones better .
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Freymuth
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Posted : Nov 22, 2011 16:02
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Very nice coment Cardinals Cartel, makes me realy feel how the kick and bass should be sounding
Still have some big issues with it to make them perfect, with the time and training they will get better for sure!
As it is known, the kick and bass shake their hands and are best friends.
Over to the coment from you, L66, I got what you are saying, the monitors are the basis to make top quality sounds. I have them in consideration, and for some time Im dreaming to have some. But Im kinda short on ... well, you know.
So I think in this way, is my music transmiting anof quality so that I need quality material to make it? I kinda make this for fun and as a hobby along my University course. So Ill invest only when it is realy necessary and justyfied. Do I have suficient music knowledge?
In that way you (you all) enter the game, rating my musical concept and end product as bad, reasonable, good, very good or by other words.
What are your ideas about it? Im realy kean to hear your opinion.
Kabuumzz
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L66
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Posted : Nov 22, 2011 17:18
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your music skills are good, you are very creative for sure your tracks have a nice flow to them how long have you been making tunes for?
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Freymuth
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Posted : Nov 22, 2011 23:40
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It makes now about 3 years that I produce music. Started from 0, so with no musical knowledge at all.
Was not long ago that I didn't know the power of having a root note for your song and that you have to use scales for them. Its not that Im very confident with them now, principally with chords and chord progressions, they are still a big mistery
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vipal
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Posted : Nov 24, 2011 06:48
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Freymuth
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Posted : Dec 14, 2011 02:01
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