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D-TEK SYNTH SAMPLE TO RE-CREAT

Soundmagus
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Posted : Sep 30, 2007 18:00
HI guys,

I was wondering if anyone could help me out in re-crating this synth sound - i have tried a whole manner of things but i think (well know as i cant do it) i am missing something.

I have lots of vsts and an Access Virus TI at my disposal so dont be shy

Its the main synth sound that kicks in straight away

thanks in advance

Soundmagus

http://www.mediafire.com/?fzmhdnff22y
PoM
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Posted : Sep 30, 2007 18:37
try a envelope with fastest attack and a bit of decay on the pitch of a oscillator,saw waveform , and a lfo synced to the beat on a band pass or hi pass filter.tweak carefully the env mod decay time, lfo speed and the amount of both.with the virus the osc and the filter env curve used to modulate the pitch sound close to this sample .
PoM
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Posted : Sep 30, 2007 19:50
i can t get very close... try with unisson on the virus and detune maybe it s that.
Soundmagus
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Posted : Sep 30, 2007 20:50
Hi Thanks for trying to help.

Here is what i have done on the virus.

Oscillator 1 Saw Wave
Filter 1 High Pass
Amp Envelope A-4, D-10, S-127, R-4
Lfo 1 --->Osc1 Pitch
Lfo 2 --->Filter 1 cutoff

this is what i have come up with so far

http://www.mediafire.com/?2ulznz1xm4b



PoM
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Posted : Sep 30, 2007 21:02
try with unisson and unisson detune neer 80/100 unisson spread around 100 maybe... try filter envelop on osc1 pitch (but not too much ),attack 0 ,decay to taste (i think it s very short ),sustain 0 and short release
Soundmagus
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Posted : Sep 30, 2007 21:13
ok done that getting closer

Thanks for your help, very much appreciated.

I will put up another sample when i am satisfied

cheers
SM
PoM
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Posted : Sep 30, 2007 21:38
http://download.yousendit.com/A4A2AE1D4A6A1766

i tried again,notes have nothing similar ... i did the same as what i wrote earlier plus adding a second saw oscillator detuned it(32 if i remember well) and added the env filter modulation on it same amount as osc 1 . i dont know if you can set the filter envelop on the general pitch in the virus ti , if yes do that insteed of adding it too osc 1 and 2, and then if you can ,add the env filter on the osc 2 but with less amount this time the sound ll be more phat.(so osc 2 get tow times the filter envelop modulation but the second time just a litle).i think the cutoff modulation is manual and not with a lfo.
Soundmagus
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Posted : Sep 30, 2007 21:51
jesus man thats pretty much spot on.

mines sounds nothign like that, i think i have done something wrong somewhere, need to star again loool.

What synth did u make that on?

Any chance of the patch so i can see visually what you done?

cheers

SM
PoM
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Posted : Sep 30, 2007 21:59
i haven t saved the patch sorry but it s 2 saw oscillators with one a bit detuned ,both with a envelope who modulate there pitch.(evrything at zero except short decay)the key is the amount of modulation and the decay time and the virus unisson i guess.

i used a vsti but with the virus you ll be more close, i m 90% sure it s a virus.
Soundmagus
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Posted : Sep 30, 2007 22:31
ok so let me try and get this tidied up a little.

so..

Saw on Osc1
Osc1 pitch controlled by envelope with fast attack and a little decay.
Lfo 1 synced to the beat (16ths ?) and filter 1 on Hp or BP
Tweak Env mod decay time (what u mean by Mod decay time?)
Tweak Lfo speed and mod of both
Put unison on
put unison detune to 80/100
Put unison spread to 100
Filter Env on osc 1 pitch also
0 attack, short decay, sustain 0 + short release
add 2nd oscillator detuned to 32 ish
add filter env mod same as Osc 1
if possible remove filt env from osc 1+2 and apply to general pitch (dont think u can do that)
if so add env filter to osc 2 only slightly for fatter sound
and cut of modulation is manual probably

i think this is what you meant, i will try it lool

thanks for your help

Mark

PoM
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Posted : Sep 30, 2007 23:15
humm no sorry i confused you ,try that.

init patch,
Osc 1 Saw
osc 2 saw a bit detuned (adjust where it s sound good and still tuned )
hi pass filter
envelop on the pitch with fastest attack and just a bit of decay,no sustain .(here you have to find the sweet spot where the sound stay tuned,make the patch with a kick and bassline playing help a lot )
unisson detune and spread
after i dont know
you can try to add the envelop on osc 2 pitch again ,sometimes it make these detuned sound better.
i think it s a virus causee the envelop have the same curve, with a nord it sound very different for exemple .
groovemachines


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Posted : Oct 1, 2007 02:26
Could someone give some hints on how to take this timbre out from a NL2x ?

Brain Hacked
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Posted : Oct 1, 2007 04:06
Why dont u ask D-tek??? is a member of the forum, he goes by the name david-tek or somethin like that, i once spoke with him in person and he's a really cool guy maybe he can tell how he made that sound
Soundmagus
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Posted : Oct 2, 2007 08:32
sent him a pm

cheers

SM
david-tek
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Posted : Oct 5, 2007 23:25
OK IF ITS THE LEAD IM THINKING ITS WITH A NORD LEAD BUT HERE IS MORE LESS HOW TO DO IT ON ALBINO 3

OSC 1 & 2 SUQARE WAVE
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ENV ATACK 0.001 DECAY 0.251 SUSTAIN 0.496 FADE 0 RELEASE 0.004
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FX USE A LITLLE CHORUS
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FILTER 1 CREAM
SAT 1 ,KNOB HALF OF IT WAY MODE 24 TYPE HP

CUT OFF 6046 RES 44 TRACK 1.00 ENV 0.33 VEL 42
----------------------------------------------
FILTER 2 CREAM
SAT 1 KNOB HALF OF IT WAY MODE 12 TYPE LP

CUT OFF 567 RES 74 TRACK 0.78 ENV 0.52 VEL 8

------------------------------------------------


THE BALANCE BETWEEN THE 2 FILTERS MOVE ALMOST 90 % TO FILTER 1



SO HOPE IT WORKS..................
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