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DJ KayVee


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Posted : Aug 22, 2008 02:42
+ 1 for watever RaDioAcTiVe AcIdHeAd said...
makes a lot of sense bro!!

\m/
RaDioAcTiVe AcIdHeAd


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Posted : Aug 22, 2008 05:46
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On 2008-08-21 12:57, day_tripper wrote:
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On 2008-08-21 10:16, RaDioAcTiVe AcIdHeAd wrote:
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On 2008-08-21 10:07, day_tripper wrote:
Drugfull or drugless... The only way out here is to go commercial!!
give me more redbull fueled Skazi gigs at Palace grounds!





daytripper bro,. u r right,. but this works only for the general masses or the majority of the masses,. but for the real freaks and if u wanna have a spiritual or watever different experiences or u just wanna go completely mad,. the only way is underground and exoctic locations,. these commercial parties are just a fun thingy,. there is no real vibe n feel in these parties,. lifeless...



agreed! But atleast the commercial parties will break the taboo.
you never hear anything (busts)against heavy metal concerts... although you would know that a lotta medical stores make a good profit during that time.




hehe yeah true i've seen them chemists make good money during the rock concerts
and true commercial parties break the taboo n im not sayin there shudnt be commercial parties,. its just that the underground scene shudnt get screwed up coz of commercialization... If both goes hand in hand nothin like it...
Wicked sound System
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Posted : Aug 22, 2008 07:29
lol
phiber_optixz
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Posted : Aug 22, 2008 09:07
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On 2008-08-22 02:24, DJ KayVee wrote:
@ phiber_optixz :
Even I agree with wat brain said....but bro,it seems lik u've missed some points here.
First thing.....
Back in old days....even the scene in Bangalore was kickass!
The time has changed,things happning around are not the same, and most important......people have change !!!!
(their lifestyle,culture, mentality....everything is considered here)
About the party organiser, ALL the organisers consider the money part....but they DO NOT look at huge profit or something. They just try is to recover their cost which is fair enough!
People normally fail to understand an organisers perception and reason behind doing such scenes. (Im not saying that ALL the organisers r like that )
Everyone knows that a commercial event will pull way more money n crowd compared to this complicated scene were u invest so much of money, take a big risk and then take care of party promotion in such a way that ONLY the RIGHT kinda people, the right circuit is aware of things happning around, then sort the cops issue, sort a venue, sound etc etc. NOT an easy job to do at all ...esp in India.

D***S happen EVERYWHERE ! u really think cops have no issues abroad???
(including Aamsterdam,as quantity does matter
Its the PEOPLE involved that matters a lot in this scene, not just the organiser and even the cops for that matter. After all, they r doing their job n a way which is right!
'One' lose link can break the entire chain and things go haywire within no time!
Hope u understand what i mean there : )



PLUR



Bro, i agree to what you're saying. But im talking about the Goa scene in the 90's and earlier. I ofcourse was a kid at those times, but based on what I have heard from old-timers, most goa parties then were FREE or they used to charge a minimal entry, and were organised by outsiders, NOT Indians. Above all, 90% of the people attending the events weren't Indians.

I dont think there was any scene in b'lore during those good old times. About D's... yes, it happens in most parties. But psytrance is targeted all the time, coz of its associated with psychedelics!! That's it! Period.

Forget Amsterdam bro... lets talk about Australia. I have a few good friends there and they say, more than 70% of the parties that happen there are illegal. But, rarely anything gets busted. Why? Do you have an answer for that? Is the Australian police ignorant about it? Or, do you think they are corrupt like Indian coppers? I think Amsterdam is more famous coz of its drug cartels, prostitutes etc... not coz of its psy gigs... as far as i know.

Finally, im aware that its not an easy job to organise a psy gathering in India. And, for a psy gathering to be successful, we need both good organiser(s) as well as trustworthy people who attend it.

Wish the scene in here comes to normalcy soon...

bOm..

Peace!
psyclone
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Posted : Aug 22, 2008 12:04
it makes me really sad to see the way some people here on this forum think bout psytrance and trance parties and psychedelics..

so i dont wana argue or try to make a point...
but one day..you..and every1 will realize..what everything is all bout

jus..as i said...spread sum awareness ppl..for a better tomorrow

also ... get sum POSITIVITY in the thinking... dont be like 'whatever happens the scenes still gona be fuckd'

if you want things to happen...then they will.. but work towards it ...in a good way..

over n out

cheers
          U can take me away from the freaks...
but u can't take the freak out of me...
psyclone
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Posted : Aug 22, 2008 12:07
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On 2008-08-21 21:05, psykomaniac wrote:
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On 2008-08-21 20:30, aCIDISGOD wrote:
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On 2008-08-21 09:15, psyclone wrote:
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On 2008-08-21 02:47, aCIDISGOD wrote:
Being very honest drugless rave is a myth C mon. It aint a rave without Lucy n Adam. Ok You have music in the outdoors its a freakin dance party. Well ya all know where I am comming from on this.

My friends lets stop pretending, Its over here in this country if not its freakin difficult carrying on on the path.




its a myth?! so it seems to me u are jus as narrow-minded as those 'kids' comin to parties thinkin oh its a rave i must go take sum drugs there..

if u wana c a change...u have to BE the change first ! and i said drugless parties for SUM TIME... for a start... so that if a situation like what happened now happens in the future...people can simply stand up for themselves and do dance in nature with people with absolutely no d's on them !

if u believe its a myth then it will be !! cmon man.. get a life.. throw away the d's




I have a great life thank you! Well it almost got screwed nice n proper but almost! It s fine now thank you.

@psyclone. My friend I beleive in doing things 'Full On' hope ya get what i mean. And psychedelics complete the full circle to me my friend.

The genre is called psychedelic trance yea! Now taht should tell you quite a bit. If music is the need i can get at home in my car at work freakin whereever and whenever but a true shamanic gathering needs psychedelics! Right! So stop askin me to get a life and come with some thing really inovative where we can go 'Full on' since you belive in being the change you want to see!

Otherwise give me them palace ground shows with Skazi Iron Maiden or Megadeth...Oh yeah on Red Bulls!

Cheers!





bro its really hard to make you get the point, the more substance abuse you do the more the scene is gonna get busted, if you like that then keep on doing it, after all at the end of psyclone baba is not gonna pay for it....... you might end up getting busted but on the other hand psyclone will be more smart by not doing such a thing.....

the whole point abt this topic is to be more carefull, now its up to what you wanna do.....

but remember in the end evry man pays for his own actions

and remember chillout in life coz life's beautiful

bOm




very nice

i guess the magical forest had its effects on u

hehe... jokin

cheerio           U can take me away from the freaks...
but u can't take the freak out of me...
toogoodforyou


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Posted : Aug 22, 2008 19:29
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On 2008-08-22 09:07, phiber_optixz wrote:

Bro, i agree to what you're saying. But im talking about the Goa scene in the 90's and earlier. I ofcourse was a kid at those times, but based on what I have heard from old-timers, most goa parties then were FREE or they used to charge a minimal entry, and were organised by outsiders, NOT Indians. Above all, 90% of the people attending the events weren't Indians.



Hehe, & then the cops came and they had to be paid! I have been to one free party exactly like you described it in Goa at Aarambol (2004) it was insane! Surely the scene in 90's must have been a lot of fun.

I would rather attend a trance party once in a year in some beautiful location, where i can enjoy some Psychedelic subtance and keep the WHOLE thing 'special' than go to several pointless gatherings.

Cheers!
aCIDISGOD


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Posted : Aug 22, 2008 19:41
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very nice

i guess the magical forest had its effects on u

hehe... jokin

cheerio





Lots of magick forests and lotsa of effects

Wish you knew!!
          ********************************************
Guardian of the Eastern Dark.
mentalcandy
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Posted : Aug 22, 2008 19:50
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On 2008-08-22 12:07, psyclone wrote:
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On 2008-08-21 21:05, psykomaniac wrote:
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On 2008-08-21 20:30, aCIDISGOD wrote:
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On 2008-08-21 09:15, psyclone wrote:
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On 2008-08-21 02:47, aCIDISGOD wrote:
Being very honest drugless rave is a myth C mon. It aint a rave without Lucy n Adam. Ok You have music in the outdoors its a freakin dance party. Well ya all know where I am comming from on this.

My friends lets stop pretending, Its over here in this country if not its freakin difficult carrying on on the path.




its a myth?! so it seems to me u are jus as narrow-minded as those 'kids' comin to parties thinkin oh its a rave i must go take sum drugs there..

if u wana c a change...u have to BE the change first ! and i said drugless parties for SUM TIME... for a start... so that if a situation like what happened now happens in the future...people can simply stand up for themselves and do dance in nature with people with absolutely no d's on them !

if u believe its a myth then it will be !! cmon man.. get a life.. throw away the d's




I have a great life thank you! Well it almost got screwed nice n proper but almost! It s fine now thank you.

@psyclone. My friend I beleive in doing things 'Full On' hope ya get what i mean. And psychedelics complete the full circle to me my friend.

The genre is called psychedelic trance yea! Now taht should tell you quite a bit. If music is the need i can get at home in my car at work freakin whereever and whenever but a true shamanic gathering needs psychedelics! Right! So stop askin me to get a life and come with some thing really inovative where we can go 'Full on' since you belive in being the change you want to see!

Otherwise give me them palace ground shows with Skazi Iron Maiden or Megadeth...Oh yeah on Red Bulls!

Cheers!





bro its really hard to make you get the point, the more substance abuse you do the more the scene is gonna get busted, if you like that then keep on doing it, after all at the end of psyclone baba is not gonna pay for it....... you might end up getting busted but on the other hand psyclone will be more smart by not doing such a thing.....

the whole point abt this topic is to be more carefull, now its up to what you wanna do.....

but remember in the end evry man pays for his own actions

and remember chillout in life coz life's beautiful

bOm




very nice

i guess the magical forest had its effects on u

hehe... jokin

cheerio




exactly................

bOm           Sorting scenezzzZ to find the ultimate chill :DD
DJ KayVee


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Posted : Aug 22, 2008 22:09
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Bro, i agree to what you're saying. But im talking about the Goa scene in the 90's and earlier. I ofcourse was a kid at those times, but based on what I have heard from old-timers, most goa parties then were FREE or they used to charge a minimal entry, and were organised by outsiders, NOT Indians. Above all, 90% of the people attending the events weren't Indians.

I dont think there was any scene in b'lore during those good old times. About D's... yes, it happens in most parties. But psytrance is targeted all the time, coz of its associated with psychedelics!! That's it! Period.

Forget Amsterdam bro... lets talk about Australia. I have a few good friends there and they say, more than 70% of the parties that happen there are illegal. But, rarely anything gets busted. Why? Do you have an answer for that? Is the Australian police ignorant about it? Or, do you think they are corrupt like Indian coppers? I think Amsterdam is more famous coz of its drug cartels, prostitutes etc... not coz of its psy gigs... as far as i know.

Finally, im aware that its not an easy job to organise a psy gathering in India. And, for a psy gathering to be successful, we need both good organiser(s) as well as trustworthy people who attend it.

Wish the scene in here comes to normalcy soon...

bOm..

Peace!



wel.....ur last line answers to the questions u have raised bro...
When u ask us the reason why parties in Australia do not get busted, are the cops ignorant....etc etc..
so like u said ...
"we need BOTH , good organiser(s) as well as TRUSTWORTHY people who attend it !!!"
.....PERIOD??!


Addictive Elements
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Posted : Aug 23, 2008 13:42
NUMBER ONE RULE : keep all info away from social networking sites.....

Obviously the orgs r gonna get trouble.....what with winter demon sending out orkut n FB friend invites to all and sundry to promotte his visit to india.....and also the party showed as an event on FB......STOP IT !!!

by not advertising.....ur 1) keeping it low
2) u make sure only the right people hear abt it thru word of mouth....

and to all u teeny bopper "ravers" ....STOP scrapping n FB mssgin ur friends abt party info.....get lost !!


ITS DAT DAMN SIMPLE.......unless petty rivalries btween groups or factions decide to fuk it up for each other.....


          ----- Hippies...they wanna save the earth....but all they ever do is smoke pot ----
DJ KayVee


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Posted : Aug 24, 2008 06:33
Yes indeed !!!!
Even I was wondering WHY this gig was promoted lik a commercial event when it was not supposed to be !!
Even I saw many ppl discussing about this gig on facebook. If this gig was supposed to be like the Skazi gig, all these promotions whould have worked out for better.......but unfortunately, I dint work out that way.
But I do understand one thing that when this gig happened, the organiser must have had no optioin because of d Bangalore's no dance rule thingy.
This so called Silicon Valley of India already had NO night life scene and whatever lil scene was happnin....even that has been sucked out bigtime!
Should have been just the other way......
"U cant dance in the club/pub.......
friggin go out n party harder and stomp all nite!!!"
lol..
who am i kiddin hea!?!

PEACE !!
boomshanthi
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Posted : Aug 24, 2008 11:30
The parties will keep happening... People will keep going... The lucky ones will have a good party, trip on whatever they trip on, enjoy whatever music is played, and come back home... The rest will get busted and probably shatter their lives, and spend the rest of it thinking "why did i go to that damned party"... This is what is happening, and sadly I don't think there will be any change... Sorry, but this is the way it is...

Whatever we say or do or talk here in this forum, only we, the people who really love the scene are gonna read it... The rest of India will never accept Raves. For them it is a party were drugs and sex and all the immoral things are done freely, and loud music is played. And we are the ones who are shattering the cultural values of India... Its quite sad the way they think, but its true...

But i don't think all is lost or over either... Guys, just do your own thing... Few weeks back, around 20 of us headed for the forests with amps, speakers, UV lights, Deco, couple of laptops, and lots of music... We partied for 2 days straight... No one stopped us... Hell, no one we knew we were partying... It was one of my best parties... In India, this is the only way you can party... Again, its sad but true...

Just my 2 cents... No offense intended to anyone...

Peace.
phazed
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Posted : Aug 24, 2008 12:10
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On 2008-08-24 11:30, boomshanthi wrote:
Few weeks back, around 20 of us headed for the forests with amps, speakers, UV lights, Deco, couple of laptops, and lots of music... We partied for 2 days straight... No one stopped us... Hell, no one we knew we were partying... It was one of my best parties...




This is the best.           -.-. .... --- --- ... . / .-.. --- ...- .
Addictive Elements
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Posted : Aug 25, 2008 18:33
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On 2008-08-24 11:30, boomshanthi wrote:
Few weeks back, around 20 of us headed for the forests with amps, speakers, UV lights, Deco, couple of laptops, and lots of music... We partied for 2 days straight... No one stopped us... Hell, no one we knew we were partying... It was one of my best parties...


In the current scenario...thats the very best anyone can do.....organize ur own vibe.....enjoi more !!

          ----- Hippies...they wanna save the earth....but all they ever do is smoke pot ----
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