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Cut out effect

kada
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Posted : Dec 12, 2003 13:54
Hi !!
Well...do u know that effect that Hallucinogen uses and sound like a 'fast cut out'. A almost example from this is the "sixthy revelation" from 1200 mics. The vocal sample on the beggining uses that.
How they do it??? VST ? External hardware?
          mais uma skol,por favor!
Trip-
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Posted : Dec 12, 2003 15:58
Any other examples? I really don't know what you mean - I don't have that track u mentioned.           Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
AgalactiA
billy ambulance
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Posted : Dec 12, 2003 16:09
a gate maybe? simon loves gated vocals           check out! www.soundclick.com/spasm
kada
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Posted : Dec 12, 2003 16:18
I think its a gate. I read somewhere that he uses a drowner gate to get the effect. but how can i use a gate to cut and back a sound a thousand times in a second??
Hi, Trip, i will check another song that have the effect.
Thanx!!
Dando


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Posted : Dec 12, 2003 16:28
yea it is a gate.. shit i'd love to hear the answer to this, i been trying to get that effect forever...
kada
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Posted : Dec 12, 2003 16:52
I suppose it can be kinda of a 'midi gate'. I mean, send midi information that tells the gate when it have to cut and when it have to let the sound rolls.

...still a mistery....
Jeto
Jeto

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Posted : Dec 12, 2003 19:48
maybe try a chopper in Cubase?
kada
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Posted : Dec 12, 2003 20:17
It must have a chopper for Logic too.

Unh... i found the solution on this link:
http://www.keyfax.com/GatesArticle.html

Thanx everyone for the attention
solipt1c
Soliptic
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Posted : Dec 13, 2003 02:32
google for scuzzphut6 or destroyfx skidder

2 excellent freeware gappers           http://www.dartrecordings.co.uk/
jon
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Posted : Dec 13, 2003 04:35
umm you can use midi gates but also you can use audio gates.... for the latter you need sidechain inputs which is easier in hardware but just about possible in plugins e.g. the compressor/expander/gate plugin from

http://www.db-audioware.com/


if only the VST/dx standard was a bit better to allow this stuff in a more elegant way....

oh i remembered two things ;

1) midi gates are SHIIITT in cubase becauyse of prblems with MIDI timing,

2) now we have plugin delay compensation in sx 2 these kind of sidechain effects will work better.. i think the db plugin has some delay. Actually the db plugin might not i cant remember cos i am a bit drunk....


andylab


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Posted : Dec 13, 2003 19:34
Another way is to use the gapper process in sound forge, you can adjust the frequency in which the sound cuts out so in theory you can get the sound to cut up to over 10,000 times a second
Mike A
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Posted : Dec 13, 2003 20:00
Quote:

On 2003-12-13 04:35, jon wrote:
1) midi gates are SHIIITT in cubase becauyse of prblems with MIDI timing,


I'm also using the MIDI Gate in Cubase SX1, works fine for me
jon
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Posted : Dec 14, 2003 02:17
Quote:


the MIDI Gate in Cubase SX1, works fine for me




ummm well I just gave it another shot and.... it works fine for me too! For some reason when I tried it before with a rapid-fire MIDI input to the MIDI gate it was missing out some of the notes. Oh well - I'm happy it works now! So I take back my earlier post!
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