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Nomad Moon
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Posted : Aug 9, 2007 23:24
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On 2007-08-09 19:17, Colin OOOD wrote:
Destroy FX MIDI Gate FTW - total tightness.
As for "Chop 4 bars into 32s"... bounce your 4 bars to one piece of audio, select 32 quantise, turn the grid on, select scissors, hold <alt>, cut at first 32nd... hey presto.
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That seems a very nice way to do it, thanx
@ shamantrixx
thank u i'll check it for sure ,i really like the groove and emotion that those tricks give to a track , keeps us right there 
thanx everybody , great help indeed.
another thing , how narrow do u cut your frequencies so that some dont get lost in the mix ?i'm talking hats,percs,snares
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sy000321
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Posted : Aug 9, 2007 23:28
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im not a big fan of vst gates
i prefer to use an LFO with a square wave controlling the volume in the synth patch.
sure beats midi automation, you can sync to tempo (in most synths/vsts) or/and play around until you get it at the right speed:)
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Scala
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Posted : Aug 10, 2007 13:58
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everythinh chopped by hand , no gate and NO glitch |
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Nomad Moon
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Posted : Aug 10, 2007 15:02
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On 2007-08-10 13:58, Scala wrote:
everythinh chopped by hand , no gate and NO glitch
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Probabbly i'll start playing wih that , right now i'm hearing a song called Visua by Shaman - VA - Solar Signs - and it has a really nice women voice all chopped and going in scales , do u think that the notes she's givin are programed also , is there a way to make a voice sample change note? |
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talolard
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Posted : Aug 10, 2007 17:27
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How about: use fruity loops as a plugin, do the pad from there. open a sepereate chanel with some fast sample and place the peak controller on its fx channel. link the peak controller to your pads volume.
now whatever you play on the sampel will be chopped on your pad.
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Mike A
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Posted : Aug 11, 2007 04:19
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On 2007-08-09 19:17, Colin OOOD wrote:
Destroy FX MIDI Gate FTW - total tightness.
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FTW IDD!
http://destroyfx.smartelectronix.com/extras/
Look for the midi gater in that page. Simple yet useful 
Apply as an effect, and create a midi track routed to the midi gater for the effect. Don't forget to automate the bypass settings when you wanna turn it on and off.
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MadScientist
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Posted : Aug 11, 2007 16:00
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a bit offtopic maybe, but is there a way in logic 5 to send midi notes to effects?
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Nomad Moon
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Posted : Aug 11, 2007 17:41
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Don't forget to automate the bypass settings when you wanna turn it on and off.
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That's good question.I usually use the Q filter on my kick bass tracks,to make that common effect of takin bass and stuff like that , if i understood it right it's possible to automate a bypass!!??even if i'm using it as a groupchannel?~
Didn't really understood how u automate a bypass 
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Mike A
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Posted : Aug 12, 2007 00:35
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It's in the parameters you can choose when you automate. Maybe even the first one. You'll notice that it's an on/off parameter so you won't be able to put a value in the middle for example. Only maximum or minimum.
If you're having difficulties with finding it, you can try automating the floor value (in case of the midi gater) to put it at 0db.
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mubali
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Posted : Aug 12, 2007 10:07
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I tend to use a few different gater plugins as well as the manual chop way depending on the situation and how lazy I feel...
The destroy fx midi gate is awesome! I use that for complex gating sequences.
I also use the Camel Space... in fact that's the one I use the most.... it just helps having one plug that can do a lot of stuff plus you can create 8 different patterns and have the camel space play all of them...
I recently started using the vcs ultrachopper... mainly because I think the shuffle on it works a little better than the one on the camel space, or at least its more instant gratification.
I recently got the storm gate as well and I kinda like it, haven't explored everything in it yet, but it's pretty fun.
Never used the dblue glitch for gating specifically, but I actually recently reinstalled my system and decided that I didn't need to put that plugin back on my computer.
As for having midi in logic sent to a plugin, I believe that you have to load the plugin in an instrument channel. It's a bit of a pain in the ass to get the midi gater from destroy fx to work properly though. I can't remember off the top of my head the process to make it work, but tomorrow I'll look into it and let ya know...
You can do all your gating manually with chopping audio, and it's a good way to do things, it just depends on how you like to work. Sometimes I'm lazy and just want that quick chop or I'm still using the vst synth and haven't converted it to audio yet... So in a case like that, manually chopping my hand isn't doable... You can always do volume automation, but the issue I've ran across with that is if you go to change the volume level on the full channel, then your gating will automatically change the volume level to the original setting you had....
Another thing to think about when chopping audio manually is doing a short fade in / fade out on each audio clip to avoid pops happening because the audio doesn't come back in or out on the zero crossing. Had to learn about that the hard way... There's an easy setting in cubase to automatically search for zero crossing, but I found that using that setting tended to mess up things when I just duplicated and audio file. It'll throw off your timing if you're not careful. And if you're using cubase, the inspector is your friend... Logic also has an inspector of sorts too that is really cool.... it's all about transposing individual samples without having to do a pitch shift on them...
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Nomad Moon
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Posted : Aug 12, 2007 14:24
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On 2007-08-12 10:07, mubali wrote:
Another thing to think about when chopping audio manually is doing a short fade in / fade out on each audio clip to avoid pops happening because the audio doesn't come back in or out on the zero crossing. Had to learn about that the hard way... There's an easy setting in cubase to automatically search for zero crossing, but I found that using that setting tended to mess up things when I just duplicated and audio file. It'll throw off your timing if you're not careful. And if you're using cubase, the inspector is your friend... Logic also has an inspector of sorts too that is really cool.... it's all about transposing individual samples without having to do a pitch shift on them...
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This is happening to me,i have a women on audio them i chopped im 32 i got that result , like VB-1's top end, tried audio process it using a fadin but didn't do much good ,so i'm kinda stuck hehe, and im still exploring the destroy fx.
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MadScientist
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Posted : Aug 12, 2007 14:35
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On 2007-08-12 10:07, mubali wrote:
As for having midi in logic sent to a plugin, I believe that you have to load the plugin in an instrument channel. It's a bit of a pain in the ass to get the midi gater from destroy fx to work properly though. I can't remember off the top of my head the process to make it work, but tomorrow I'll look into it and let ya know...
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thanx mubali
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Logic also has an inspector of sorts too that is really cool.... it's all about transposing individual samples without having to do a pitch shift on them...
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can you explain what exactly do you mean with this "inspector"? you made me curious now hehe
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mubali
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Posted : Aug 13, 2007 06:01
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MadScientist
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Posted : Aug 13, 2007 19:40
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thanx a lot mubali
so let me check if I got it right about the midi gate:
the audioinst channel I want to gate I sent to a bus with no output...then I take a 2nd audioinst channel where I drop the midi gate as instrument and sidechain it to the bus...so then I write the midi how it should gate in the 2nd audioinst channel and the real notes in the first with the instrument...so, then the sound is coming out of the 2nd audioinst channel with the midi gate, and the first one and the bus seem silent!?
did I get this right? hehe
another question, maybe I could answer myself but I didnt try the midi gate myself yet...
is it possible, if the sound comes out of the midi gate channel, to have a part in the track where that sound isnt gated, just by dont writing any gate notes in the midigate channel?
anyway, I'll defenately try this out soon...looks great to gate my virus 
oh and about the inspector of logic, I've seen this part all the time but never used it...seems like I defenately need to read the manual about this inspector soon
one last question, is this transpose and the other settings of the inspector working for just one sample or for the whole channel?
so thanx again mubali, this is really useful
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mubali
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Posted : Aug 14, 2007 02:24
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On 2007-08-13 19:40, MadScientist wrote:
the audioinst channel I want to gate I sent to a bus with no output...then I take a 2nd audioinst channel where I drop the midi gate as instrument and sidechain it to the bus...so then I write the midi how it should gate in the 2nd audioinst channel and the real notes in the first with the instrument...so, then the sound is coming out of the 2nd audioinst channel with the midi gate, and the first one and the bus seem silent!?
did I get this right? hehe
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Yes that's exactly it
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another question, maybe I could answer myself but I didnt try the midi gate myself yet...
is it possible, if the sound comes out of the midi gate channel, to have a part in the track where that sound isnt gated, just by dont writing any gate notes in the midigate channel?
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Not quite... what you would do is just draw a long bar in the midi information that would extend the length of how long you would want the sound ungated. See the midi gate responds to the placing of midi notes, so you would need to draw a really long one for the passage you would not want gated. OR, you set up a bus send to a different bus and automate the volume being sent to that second bus. I find drawing the long midi note to be easier unless you want to mix the gated and ungated signal.
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one last question, is this transpose and the other settings of the inspector working for just one sample or for the whole channel?
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It's just for the individual object, so you can change the transposition or the fade in/out for each individual object or sample. It makes quick simple edits really easy to where you don't have to open up an extra window.... Honestly I didn't even know about the inspector thing in either program till I sat down with Horror Place and again with Highko and they showed it to me... Totally made me work a lot differently in some respects.
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so thanx again mubali, this is really useful
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No worries, glad to be of help
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