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xrust
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Posted : Aug 14, 2007 02:34
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right now i'm hearing a song called Visua by Shaman - VA - Solar Signs -
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just a small offtopic correction 
the track name is "shaman" by visua
easy to get confused since there is another project named "shaman"
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Nomad Moon
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Posted : Aug 14, 2007 03:12
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right now i'm hearing a song called Visua by Shaman - VA - Solar Signs -
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just a small offtopic correction
the track name is "shaman" by visua
easy to get confused since there is another project named "shaman"
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Thank u,when i was posting i had some doubts but ,like u said i know there's a Shaman , so i 'm sorry for my laziness
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MadScientist
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Posted : Aug 14, 2007 03:21
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one last question, is this transpose and the other settings of the inspector working for just one sample or for the whole channel?
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It's just for the individual object, so you can change the transposition or the fade in/out for each individual object or sample. It makes quick simple edits really easy to where you don't have to open up an extra window.... Honestly I didn't even know about the inspector thing in either program till I sat down with Horror Place and again with Highko and they showed it to me... Totally made me work a lot differently in some respects.
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thanx again for clearing this up I'm using that fade in/out function already for audio clips...just wondered how this works with midi tracks?! if I remember right now, there is that inspector you got on that pic, without fade in/out etc, but with delay, dynamics and such for example...do you know if this is for the whole channel or for each midi box?
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mubali
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Posted : Aug 14, 2007 06:59
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It works the same way for midi tracks. In fact in the inspector pic for Logic, it's actually showing the inspector for a midi object. And each inspector setting is for the individual midi object, not for the whole channel.
So you could have a box that had a transpose of +12 and then the following separate box could have a different transpose. (unless you copy/paste from the midi box that had the +12 transpose)
And that holds true for audio objects as well. except the audio objects wouldn't have some of the features of the midi object. Basically what the dynamics thing in the logic inspector is is just velocity, they just call it something different.
Here's a prime example of how the Logic inspector would really work out nicely. Let's say you decide that you want your midi notes located in an object to have a bit of a swing to it, you can just select the object and change the quantization on it to a swing quantize and voila! Instant Danish groove (referring more to the parvati sound than the Iboga sound) An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. |
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Nomad Moon
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Posted : Aug 14, 2007 11:17
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@Mubali
Thank u very much , that's pure knowledge sharing!
There's lot's i really don't know about and u're enlighting me with every post u've made.
Don't really understand the concept of trans pose,and what it does,perhaps an english speaking person takes sense out of it immediatly but for me it's something i cant grasp
anyway thank u very much
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MadScientist
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Posted : Aug 14, 2007 14:19
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great mubali its what I wanted...that makes so much possibilities!
do you maybe know about that delay parameter in the midi inspector? is it a real delay, or does it just delay the midi block so it starts a bit later?
sorry for asking so much questions mate and thanx a lot for the swing tip 
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mubali
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Posted : Aug 14, 2007 18:10
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What transpose is is the technical term for a pitch shift.
If you were to take one sound and you wanted to play it 4 semi tones higher (which would be if the original was like at C0 and you wanted it to play E0 instead) Trasnposing the note would be what you would do to change the pitch of the note.
The delay parameter does inded just delay the midi block so it starts later, which here's where it might come in really handy....
Lets say you have a bunch of sounds that are all hitting at the same time and you think that all the sounds should be there, but you think that all those midi notes hitting at the same time are fucking things up. use a 1 sample delay to change one or two of the sounds start point. I really haven't done it all that much for midi, as much as I've done it in audio for drums... or synthlines where their main effect isn't exactly on the first hit but you don't exactly want to take it out. Your brain won't really notice a delay of 1-3 samples (which is the shortest way of calculating time I think or at least in a music production aspect)
I tend to do that for explosions and sound effects. For audio I used the logic sample delay precisely for that reason... now that I'm using cubase I just use the inspector and more the start point over by one sample.
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MadScientist
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Posted : Aug 14, 2007 20:34
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yeah thats what I guessed...but I just wondered, mostly I'll use the fades and transpose anyway
thanx a lot again mubali...great someone is sharing such knowledge about logic here!
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mubali
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Posted : Aug 15, 2007 06:51
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Funny thing is, I quit using Logic 2 years ago... but reinstalled it for nostalgia, and the esm and ese... It makes a great sound tool for sampling and then fucking with the audio in cubase...
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MadScientist
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Posted : Aug 15, 2007 14:19
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haha yeahh, I can imagine its also a great tool for such purposes...but somehow I cant get familiar with cubase, dont know why
next month I'll get a mac and switch to logic 7 then...already curious like hell to check that prog in and out
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