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cubase vs. logic vs. pro-tools on Mac
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david abrgel
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Posted : May 20, 2009 11:49
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well to answer youre question i need to seperate it to diffrent ways
/preformance vs. software abilities
and what i mean by that is when we are talking preformance it's all about hardware and softwares demands(requierments).
when youre talking about cubase vs. logic usually it's the os's:
xp/vista/win7(cant load logic) against mac x leopard ( can load both of the programs)
well known xp can have very light system requierment's against what mac x leopard can request (it's very heavy graphic software)
so when you use cubase on xp you will have more preformances cause the xp system takes less from youre computer resources
but there alot more the that to compare like when you use vista it takes you the same
when win 7 takes u less but still more then xp
and most important
cubase 5 against logic 8 requierments i've seen cubase 5 requeirments is # 2 GHz CPU (dual core CPU recommended)
# 1024 MB RAM
# Display resolution 1024 x 768 pixels
and logic 8 is .
# 1.25GHz or faster PowerPC G4 processor (PowerPC G5, Intel Core Duo, or Intel Xeon processor highly recommended)
# 1GB of RAM (2GB or more highly recommended)
# Display with 1024-by-768 resolution (1280-by-800 or higher recommended)
so they are both have the same demands
need to take a test in real to see who from those 2 are really a cpu & memory waster.
now about software abilities if you have sufficiant resources (Enough memory & cpu)
in cubase:
"8 inserts per Channel, 64 FX sends as well as 256 groups/busses and unlimited routing between audio channels, busses, groups and FX returns "
that's means you can add 8 inserts & send 8
then agaia 8 & 8 sends that's means youll will get very large number.
in logic im quauting
". Each track supports 15 plug-ins and 8 pre-, post-, and post-pan sends with full latency compensation"
im thinking they are meaning that 15 insert's for each channel?
(someone with logic 8 can approve this?)
in the overall look this only small part from the difrences.
im saying that there are advantage's and disadvantage from each software u need to make youre own decision what you need from the software to do and wich one could make it happen.
BTW in the end of things it's all about the money
*another important thing i'm seeing here lots saying i need mac pro working logic i hope you all know that pc install with the opreating system mac os x can also gives you to load logic 8. |
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Ajja
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Posted : May 20, 2009 17:50
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Well, I'm using Logic 8 & Cubase 5 on a 2.16 ghz intel macbook... It seems to me that Logic runs better (and the built-in synths are super-clean too).
On the other hand Cubase just has way more audio-manipulation possibilities... which makes everything more fun!
So I seem to end up making my kick n bass etc in Logic (cant beat that Es1 for bass man) then bouncing the whole thing to Cubase to add the rest.
One other thing to consider... mac just brought out Snow Leopard(10.6) which is supposed to be way lighter to run, so that might improve Cubases performance.
My advice is to use both, as they have different strong points.
Hope our paths cross again somewhere soon man
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david abrgel
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Posted : May 20, 2009 19:16
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On 2009-05-20 17:50, Ajja wrote:
Well, I'm using Logic 8 & Cubase 5 on a 2.16 ghz intel macbook... It seems to me that Logic runs better (and the built-in synths are super-clean too).
On the other hand Cubase just has way more audio-manipulation possibilities... which makes everything more fun!
So I seem to end up making my kick n bass etc in Logic (cant beat that Es1 for bass man) then bouncing the whole thing to Cubase to add the rest.
One other thing to consider... mac just brought out Snow Leopard(10.6) which is supposed to be way lighter to run, so that might improve Cubases performance.
My advice is to use both, as they have different strong points.
Hope our paths cross again somewhere soon man
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can you put some effects and instruments on each of the progmrams and give us screen shots of the task manager?
(im not fimiliar how it's called in leopard i mean the application thats show memory & cpu)
it could be helpfull indication.
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vegetal
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Posted : May 20, 2009 20:32
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On 2009-05-20 19:16, david abrgel wrote:
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On 2009-05-20 17:50, Ajja wrote:
Well, I'm using Logic 8 & Cubase 5 on a 2.16 ghz intel macbook... It seems to me that Logic runs better (and the built-in synths are super-clean too).
On the other hand Cubase just has way more audio-manipulation possibilities... which makes everything more fun!
So I seem to end up making my kick n bass etc in Logic (cant beat that Es1 for bass man) then bouncing the whole thing to Cubase to add the rest.
One other thing to consider... mac just brought out Snow Leopard(10.6) which is supposed to be way lighter to run, so that might improve Cubases performance.
My advice is to use both, as they have different strong points.
Hope our paths cross again somewhere soon man
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can you put some effects and instruments on each of the progmrams and give us screen shots of the task manager?
(im not fimiliar how it's called in leopard i mean the application thats show memory & cpu)
it could be helpfull indication.
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Doesnt really say anything unless your using the exact same plugins and hopefully run it under the same OS otherwise youŽd end up with a result not knowing where the bottleneck is. But if you do have the same plugins and so on what you want to do is to push a project with same chain of fx until your unable to playback your project then sum up the total amount of channels you can run that would be a decent benchmark to compare
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david abrgel
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Posted : May 20, 2009 21:21
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Doesnt really say anything unless your using the exact same plugins and hopefully run it under the same OS otherwise youŽd end up with a result not knowing where the bottleneck is. But if you do have the same plugins and so on what you want to do is to push a project with same chain of fx until your unable to playback your project then sum up the total amount of channels you can run that would be a decent benchmark to compare
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yes that was my intention and about using same os it's sure to be that you need that cause only with mac x leopard u can load both
anyway we really do need to do a benchmark topic for this subject ill try to make this test also soon.
hopefully doing the export test also
if i will get also the proper drivers and will not get bug's in trying to.
BTW the only problem i can only got cubase 3-4 but we will see on that also..   http://www.myspace.com/davidabrgel
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Triton
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Posted : May 26, 2009 07:28
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bilbobagginz:
Cubase has an offline processing feature which allows you to apply effects to any given audio event, this will create a new audio event
So, You can record, lets say...a dry robotesque synth line to an audio channel, for arranging purposes u want for that line 2 bar reverb, followed to a 2 bar delayed, or buffer overrided or glitched....
all u need to do is offline process each 2 bar event, voila!!!
Your imagination is the limit.... nor your cpu
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makus
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Posted : May 26, 2009 12:54
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yeahyeah. that's why i like bouncing synths so much. also because of this capabilities i don;t use any drum machines - all drums parts i create on separated audio tracks.
 
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ansolas
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Posted : May 30, 2009 17:20
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