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Cubase SX3 or Logic 5.5.1?
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Honguito
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Posted : Dec 16, 2004 03:11
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Here goes another "xxx VS xxx" topic but I just have to bug you with this one (the last one for a while, I promise)!
Soon I'll have a "killllahhhhh" ( ) computer, with components specially chosen for musicproduction. I want to make sure that I start with the "right" program right from the start since they are very expensive to buy and learning them is very timeconsuming.
So what do you say, Cubase SX3 or Logic 5.5.1?
And oh, I'm really starting from scratch, with no experience at all with computerized musicproduction |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Dec 16, 2004 03:46
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EYB
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Posted : Dec 16, 2004 05:55
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What a question. U want to know if u should use a ultra modern and up-to-date sequencer or one which even isn't produced/programmed/avaible for IBMs.
So if u want to stay with IBM take Steinbergs Cubase.
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Honguito
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Posted : Dec 16, 2004 06:01
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yeah, I know that in the beginning i won't understand 1/100000 of all the features in any of the two sequencers, so any of them will be good enough, Colin OOOD. But as time passes on, I'll hopefully learn to use it and I just want to make sure that I will not think like "damn that I didn't chose the other program instead because of....". I'm thinking about my future needs. And if so, which one should I go for? |
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Honguito
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Posted : Dec 16, 2004 06:08
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EYB, isn't logic 5.5.1 for PC? Embarassing question but I read it in another post. Anyhow, until recently I never had any other sequencer than cubase sx3 in mind until a friend of mine who's into musicproduction on PC told me to go for logic instead. And he didn't even told me that with ambivalence, he was more like "DEFINATELY LOGIC!!". Unfortunately we didn't have much more time to speak that time so I never got to ask him why he thought like that. Then I saw in the forum that for instance spindrift use logic 5.5.1 and he seems to be really happy about it. |
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EYB
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Posted : Dec 16, 2004 08:10
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Yes it is for pc but it will not developed further for IBM pcs.
Look Logic 7.0 is already availble for Mac and Logic 6.4.3 for OSx. Pc version is the oldest of them.
So now think about if u want to use logic u can use logic 5 for pc and of course it is still and will for the next time a very good sequencer, but software and hardware will developed a lot in future, for example next windows will be 64bit. So u don't know much about compatiblities in future with Logic 5.
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Pavel
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Posted : Dec 16, 2004 09:36
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For clean starting Cubase is easier i think.
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Honguito
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Posted : Dec 16, 2004 13:19
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I did know that, EYB. And you're right, if I want to put focus on my future needs then it feels more secure to choose Cubase because it is still being updated. And the fact that my processor is 64bit is one more reason to choose cubase sx3 in front of logic. And also like you say, Pavel. Cubase is easier. My guess is that more people use cubase so it's easier to get help. I also think there are more books and tutorials for cubase.
Well my mind is getting more clear now. Bad bad friend of mine, confusing me like that. I'll spank his ass next time I see him |
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UnderTow
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Posted : Dec 16, 2004 14:13
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On 2004-12-16 03:11, Honguito wrote:
So what do you say, Cubase SX3 or Logic 5.5.1?
And oh, I'm really starting from scratch, with no experience at all with computerized musicproduction
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If you are starting from scratch, forget about using Logic on the PC. It has been abandoned by Emapple and won't be developed any more. In a few years (or sooner) you will be wanting new modern technology in your audio sequencer (and some old technology that isn't even in Logic 7 yet) and you won't be able to upgrade unless you get an overpriced Mac.
Also Logic has a much steeper learning curve compared to Cubase or Sonar. (Yes there is another option . It seems pointless to me to invest time money and energy in a sequencer that is allready obselete on the PC platform.
On a moral point, don't support a company that has abandoned half of it's users. Apple have only bought Emagic to sell more Macs. They are not dedicated to making the best music application. This was proven quite clearly when they introduced distributed processing in Logic 7 (Buy another Mac and get more power ...) but didn't introduce automatic PDC technology that has been arround since '97 in other sequencers. (That is 7 years ago! An eternity in the computer world).
Logic is quite a good product if you were allready on a Mac but anyone that switched from a PC to a Mac to use Logic is a sucker to Apple's marketing departement. Hook line and sinker ...
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PsYx
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Posted : Dec 16, 2004 16:56
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"Logic is quite a good product if you were allready on a Mac but anyone that switched from a PC to a Mac to use Logic is a sucker to Apple's marketing departement. Hook line and sinker ... "
What if u're sooo used 2 using Logic, why should they go 2 a much more complicated interface-"cubase"...Because if u're used 2 Logic, cubase is just a bitch !!!
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Azaad_500
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Posted : Dec 16, 2004 18:04
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no no no, man waht are you thinkin in????
cubase & logic sucks, you should go for e-jay... with e-jay youŽll make the finnest tunes for sure heheh |
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High Pulse
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Posted : Dec 16, 2004 20:57
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Logic is quite a good product if you where allready on a Mac but anyone that switched from a PC to a Mac to use Logic is a sucker to Apple's marketing departement. Hook line and sinker ...
hey man this is a nonsense logic opinion, if someone change from pc to mac to still work with logic .. its because logic is they'r tool to work . i have changed from pc to mac g5 .. to have logic original for the studio .. and to have update on now on !
so dont say such bullshits . and about the deal between apple and emagic .. thats concern only for them . not to u .. what do u know to know if they buy logic only for sell mac .. maybe yes , but why u say they don't care with the software they made ?? .. do u think SX3 is bether *? ... well for u amigo .. i really dont think so
http://community.sonikmatter.com/forums/index.php?act=idx
read some infos about it . and post there your opinion that u wrote and u get some answers
its just my opinion mate .. and i think u are wrong .
and if u whant logic u dont need to work on g5 .. u can work on g4 as well ... so .. don't go for this side
and tell me .. who in this world are not trying to make money with everything ?? .. lolol
logic .. cubase .. mercedes .. toyota .. LOL everyone man .. so .. this is unsense teory !
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EYB
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Posted : Dec 17, 2004 01:25
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Logic for IBM sucks, and he want to use IBM if i understand him right.
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Posted : Dec 17, 2004 01:43
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Colin as the voice of reason- nothing new...
the one real answer here without any emotion.
i would like to fortify his words and suggest a platform that your friends, or someone you consider a teacher has. that would make your life easier, since you you share the same sequencer software, you will be able to work together and learn much faster.
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UnderTow
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Posted : Dec 17, 2004 02:36
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On 2004-12-16 20:57, DarkPsy wrote:
hey man this is a nonsense logic opinion, if someone change from pc to mac to still work with logic .. its because logic is they'r tool to work . i have changed from pc to mac g5 .. to have logic original for the studio .. and to have update on now on !
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That is a valid reason but you did exactly what Apple's marketing departement wanted. Hook line and sinker.
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so dont say such bullshits . and about the deal between apple and emagic .. thats concern only for them . not to u .. what do u know to know if they buy logic only for sell mac .. maybe yes ,
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I have been in the business world long enough to know how things work ... And it certainly is not just an affair for Apple (Emagic is gone). It is actually very important to the users.
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but why u say they don't care with the software they made ?? .. do u think SX3 is bether *? ... well for u amigo .. i really dont think so
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You like to jump to conclusions don't you? I don't like Cubase actually. And my point was clarified: They prefer adding technology that makes users (want to) buy more Macs rather than adding technology that enhances your music creation and mixing. That is prety hard to ignore ...
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its just my opinion mate .. and i think u are wrong .
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Of course you do or you wouldn't have switched to a Mac.
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and if u whant logic u dont need to work on g5 .. u can work on g4 as well ... so .. don't go for this side
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Err that is still a Mac, right?
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and tell me .. who in this world are not trying to make money with everything ?? .. lolol
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That isn't the issue. Making audio sequencer's isn't Apple's core business. Anything and everything they do is to sell more hardware. I prefer getting my audio applications from a company dedicated to audio.
You missed the most important point: Honguito wants to stay on the PC platform. Even you switched to Mac because Apple don't support PC any more. So even you agree by your actions that Logic is dead on the PC.
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