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Cubase SX3: how to record a (processed)audio track without bouncing?
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orgytime
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Posted : May 4, 2010 14:55:08
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its hard to describe, ive been looking for ages now for this. its a bit tricky:
lets say i got a audiotrack in cubase, much automation is going on, and now is the point where i want to bounce the whole thing, BUT!
i dont want to bounce, i want to RECORD the audio track into another audio track directly into my daw.
i know such a thing exists because it worked with my old computer!
i just made a new audio track, soloed the desired tracks i want to record, clicked at the record button at my new audio track and PAAAM it recorded the stuff i soloed WITH all the automation whats going on like if i record any signal (like youtube, or any running sound on my computer). this also worked with miditracks!
it really saved time, no effort!
do i have to route something, or ist it a soundcard issue? pleas help me out!
i read something about the freeze-function, but thats not the same!
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piko_bianko
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Posted : May 4, 2010 21:55
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1. create a group track.
2. bus your audiotrack in that group.
3. create new audio track.
4. select the group track as input.
you're done.
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orgytime
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Posted : May 5, 2010 08:54
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thanks, i did it without setting any options (bus), routing and grouping. that causes work again, like bouncing.
but ill give it a shot!
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supergroover
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Posted : May 5, 2010 11:19
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What is the difference between bouncing it and recording it live? Except that recording takes longer..
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piko_bianko
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Posted : May 5, 2010 12:23
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1. maybe lazy to search and import the bounced file 
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2. any live modulation, feels more alive to the creator (and it does a bit yes)
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supergroover
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Posted : May 6, 2010 01:17
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In cubase and probably most other programs you can tick a box so it will create a new audio file for the bounce. Life made easy 
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : May 6, 2010 01:49
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the same method as if you would record vocals or guitar,just record sth else.If you know how to do it,just select another channel and record it.It has its big advantages ,more than bouncing for sure.
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orgytime
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Posted : May 6, 2010 10:21
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On 2010-05-06 01:49, TimeTraveller wrote:
the same method as if you would record vocals or guitar,just record sth else.If you know how to do it,just select another channel and record it.It has its big advantages ,more than bouncing for sure.
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yeah, but it dont works 
and i wonder why...
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supergroover
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Posted : May 6, 2010 11:04
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On 2010-05-06 01:49, TimeTraveller wrote:
the same method as if you would record vocals or guitar,just record sth else.If you know how to do it,just select another channel and record it.It has its big advantages ,more than bouncing for sure.
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What are the advantages?
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : May 6, 2010 11:47
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@ supergroover
You can add sth new to it on the run in a rush.Onto your 'finished' automation, that you would normaly just bounce - you can add this extra sth to it.
You are much more faster at first.With experimenting.Try it than you will see.Life playing and recording or thinking long and constructing are two worlds.It's like freetyle or a planned construction.
Both are good.
I like often to make a fusion of it.
You don't need to work through your automations too long.IF you have a good run than your automations can be on your recording too.
Some effects sound different when bounced as if played in real time,depends on some plug ins I guess..
There is for sure much more.
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orgytime I don't know why it does not work for you,you have to select alot in cubase even to get the vocals recorded I know.Soundcard etc..
I work now with these setting for a while but I regularely forget them when I change after some time hehe.
I will look up in my projects later and write you (probably tommorow).
Greets
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 7, 2010 20:28
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SX3 can't do what you ask without looping back the stereo output from the soundcard into another input. Some soundcards can do this internally but it's still not always the best solution for quality, because it generally means running things through the soundcard mixer (as well as the SX mixer) which can sometimes degrade the sound due to eg. sample-rate conversion which you can't switch off, or adding other soundcard inputs to the mix, and perhaps even D/A-A/D conversion before it gets back in to Cubase. Much better and quicker to add your live automation beforehand, then export audio... there is an option to automatically copy the exported file into the project folder and import it back into the track; surely this would be much more convenient?
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orgytime
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Posted : May 10, 2010 11:03
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hehe thanks colin!
you answered my question well! it was a old onboard soundcard i used. i didnt set up anything, it just worked.
about quality loss i dont know... i trust you^^
oh yeah, ill check the automatic import, nice xD
thanks!
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Freeflow
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Posted : May 14, 2010 04:16
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in this case i dont see the point of doing a realtime recording in cubase, more than that its maybe feels simpler and contains less mouse clicks, otherwise why not just export it? if there is a plugin that dont work with offline export you can always try realtime export
Still it would be a handy option to be able to do what you ask for, i would use it.. but if it is the case that Colin explain you are better off exporting
Still i do some external recording using my digital porta, sometimes best with S/pdif for best quality, but in case of no S/pdif i use the audio outs and record.... works well when i find some cool mistake i want to record like when you turn off a effect and it makes this super wierd noise, so i route the outputs to the recording machine 
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 14, 2010 05:13
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : May 19, 2010 22:41
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I'm so happy this option is possible.
Right now using a synth (for free beast(thanky Freeflow)) where it is not possible to automate everything.
Even not his awesome arppregiator functions.
With this technique there is a concrete way out so the mission can succeed .
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..just bouncing would be just a down if not a frustration beacause of some limits.
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