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Cubase Sx: best pattern sequencer machine??
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ess765
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Posted : Jun 3, 2006 09:29
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I came from the reason world and I ve been using cubase sx. In Reason I could use the wonderful matrix sequencer, which used to be really easy and perfect to write arpeggios and melodic tunes and lines. Now in Cubase I m a little lost about it. I read and tried here using it s own sequencer machine (the one hided in the midi menu, I forgot it s name). But in Reason I could right the pattern in the matrix sequencer machine and I could send the midi notes to be recorded directly to the midi notes editor by pressing onw key. I m starting to conclude that on Cubase I always have to keep the sequencer on and that muy arpegios aren t recorded into the midi notes editor. What seems to heappen is that the sequencer machine plays it "alive"when the cursor get s to that bar. Is it correct or am I wrong?
What kind of advice would you guys give me about sequencer machines in Cubase? What are my options about using it? What kind of idea are related to use those machines with let s say an Albino arpeggio.
Some vstis have their own sequecer machines or arpegio method.
So how do you use them? Are there any pattern sequencer machines specificly designed to make our lives easier when using vstis? |
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Jun 3, 2006 10:27
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In cubase you can use midi-plugins as inserts on your midi-tracks to do something similar: try Arpache or the other ones. A nice feature is that after you're done recording, you can record the converted midi-info coming through the midi-plugin to a midi track and edit it. There are also some third party arpegiator midi-plugins, try http://www.kvraudio.com/ for more info.
Good luck
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Fragletrollet
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Posted : Jun 3, 2006 12:59
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FL Studio? |
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le barde
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Posted : Jun 3, 2006 16:04
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doest it work to have reason in rewire and send the midi messages in cubase to control a vsti ??
otherwise for sure you can use reason in rewire, make what you want in and then export in an audio channel of cubase.
halion is supposed to be the sequencer for cubase, but never tried it.
FL .. works great if you like this soft |
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ess765
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Posted : Jun 3, 2006 19:30
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Guys let me explain my concern:
in Reason I write a pattern in the matrix sequencer and I press play in the song and that pattern keeps playing togetuher with all tracks. Then I go to it s options menu and click on the "send midi to track". Now the pattern notes that needed the matrix to be on play mode to be heard go written into my notes lane. I can even delete te matrix sequencer cause the midi notes are there already and I won t need the sequencer machine to listen to those pattern notes.
In Cubase, I wonder if is there a way that I can do the same. I wouldn t like to have the machine sequencer on play mode. I d like to know if is there any kind of sequencer (internal or not in Cubase) that allows me to send the pattern notes I created (let s say an arpegio) writen into the midi notes editor (a kind of piano role where the midi notes are writen when you record them). If he sequencer allows me to send those notes in the midi editor i could disable the sequencer or remove it and my pattern still will be played.
Anyne could tell me that?
Boobytrip, of course I connect the midi tracks directly into the harware outputs in reason, Thats the only way to send each of reason s tracks into individual cubases rewire tracks. But the problem here is that when reason is rewiered to cubase, you can t edit midi notes in reason cause it s on slave mode. So your midi controler can t work on reason s midi notes. So I d have to use reason alone and then turn it off, open cubase and reason (on rewire) each time I need to edit a midi note in reason but want to listen with vsts.
Electropynose, I never tried using the midi notes to control the vstis. Is it really possible??I don t think so, cause on rewire mode, reason can only send individual audio tracks, cause it doesn t have midi channels for yo to send them one by one to the host. Cause when I rewire Reason to cubase I use the Reason s instruments, and then I have those instruments played on each of the rewire tracks in Cubase |
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Jun 3, 2006 21:37
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Nonono... that's not what i meant  I meant that you can use the Cubase Arpache plugin INSTEAD of the matrix sequencer. Then you can do all midi-editing in Cubase and after a while you probably don't even want to start up Reason anymore (at least that's what happened in my case).
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ess765
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Posted : Jun 5, 2006 08:51
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Ok Boobytrip,
but I still have no answer to my question:
is Apache or any other sequencer machine out there capable to work as the matrix in Reason?
I mean...you write the pattern inside the Matrix, but then you can send that midi patern into the piano role for that instrument and even delete the matrix machine, cause you don t need that device to listen to your midi pattern anymore, cause it has been transfered from the matrix to the respective reason s sequencer track.(if you ve used matrix and you ll understand me. As you right click the matrix with your mouse there ll be an option "copy pattern to track") |
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Jun 5, 2006 12:40
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Aight ess765,
YES it is and yes you can. In Cubase SX you can right-click on a midi part that has the Arpache as an insert, go to 'midi' and midi-menu that appears you select 'merge midi in loop' (with 'include inserts' selected), then click 'ok' and whoomp there it is !  After the midi data is merged you can delete the Arpache, Stepdesigner (which is probably closer to the Matrix) or any other midi effect that was merged. Try it, it's pretty easy.
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drummel
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Posted : Jun 5, 2006 20:11
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nice tip man!
tnx a lot |
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ess765
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Posted : Jun 5, 2006 23:03
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Now you really healped me Boobytrip!!!!!
I just didn t get this point here:
"In Cubase SX you can right-click on a midi part that has the Arpache as an insert".
It seems like I already had that midi writen to the piano role. But I don t have it yet. And my questions included how do I produce that midi track before I can double click it and merge it. Cause my first impressions would be that Apache had to be on play omde for me to listen to the arpegio, like when you turn the matrix on, then send this midi to the track. I ll have a try and will coment about that, cause the manual can t hlp too much about the Apache.
Thanks anyway.
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Jun 5, 2006 23:22
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Good luck m8 You can do some really neat stuff with the midi plugins in Cubase. BTW, I think that the Stepdesigner is more like the Matrix.
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