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Cubase; converting midi track to audio tracks??

ess765
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Posted : Jun 3, 2006 09:18
I have 2 questions here which I d like to be informed about Cubase Sx:
1) Let s say I have a bassline on channel 1 recorded with Muon Tau. This is a midi track. So, I want to covert this bassline into to audio and create a audio track so I can delete the midi track. Is it possible nad how do I perform it step by step?

2) I have a Reason track using 32 midi channels on this software. I decide to rewire it to Cubase SX. As my Reason track is already eating too much CPU power and I ll need using some vst s I would like to convert each of these instruments recorded in Reason into a Cubase s individual audio track. Please consider that Reason can only export the hole track as midi file as it doesnt work with midi channels (what would enable individual midi channel exporting).
So, how can I perform converting individual Reason s midi tracks into Cubase individual audio tracks? Will I have to export each Reason s track one by one as audio and then import them one by one to Cubase s Pool? Is thee a more logical and practical way to do it? Please tell me step by step.

obs: Please don t try to convince me that I should simply rewire Reason to Cubase and keep rewire tracks enabled. That option is not working in my particular case. Thanks a lot for your support. Regards to all...
TuK
TuK

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Posted : Jun 3, 2006 10:35
theirs no problem converting midi to audio and its very advisable to get your self to work in a way that you convert all the midi you can to audio in a way that it doesnt hurt your creativity, i advise you to keep the midi chanel you convert to audio and if your not using it you can just turn the synth off in f11 and save cpu.
in order to convert midi to audio just mute the midi chanel, mark in the upper scale in cubase blue (like how you do loops) and just go to export audio file.
regerding your second question i dont think you have any options rather then export each track and then importing it in cubase. i advise you on your next track to rewire reason to cubase and use the cubase sequencer so the reason instruments are like vst, and one more advise is if you rewire reason to cubase dont rewire through the mixer just connect the insruments straight to the audio out in reason.
hope i helped
ess765
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Posted : Jun 3, 2006 19:46
Dj Tuk,


about topic 1:

So you say my only option would be to export each of the desired midi tracks as audio and the import them back to cubase, right? Ok..that s what I thought anyway ( I hoped I had a better option.

you said: "to keep the midi chanel you convert to audio and if your not using it you can just turn the synth off in f11 and save cpu. in order to convert midi to audio just mute the midi chanel, mark in the upper scale in cubase blue (like how you do loops) and just go to export audio file. "

When you say mute the midi channel you mean solo?? I mean, I should make cubase only play the track i want to export..is that what you meant?
About topic 2:
I already rewire each of the reasons tracks into cubase rewire tracks through reason s audio harware outputs. You only forgot that in this option reason is on slave mode. That means you can t edit nothing on reason, cause the midi controler won t work fo r reason. So If I need to write anything new or edit stuff that are in reason, I d have to turn reason off, then turn cubase off, then turn reason on , edit it, turn cubase on and listen to it. And there would be a major problem. As my tracks would be connect directl to reason s output hardware I couldn t listen to what I m doing in reason as stand alone. I d have to disconnect all tracks from this reason s hardware audio inputs and connect them all back to the mixer s inputs.
TuK
TuK

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Posted : Jun 3, 2006 19:57
yes i meant solo, sorry.

its not true, the midi controler does work in rewire and you can also automate any reason parameter in the cubase automation.
when you rewire do you open a midi chanel in cubase and put in a reason instument?
because thats all the point in rewire, that you can use the reason instuments and use cubase as the main sequencer
ess765
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Posted : Jun 3, 2006 21:09
yes Tuk,
when I rewire I activate the rewire midi channels individually. My point is that I can t edit reason s midi tracks while it s on slave mode to cubase. All I can do is to listen to the reason tracks inside cubase but I can t do any ediing while it s rewired cause the midi controller won t affect reason. What I m trynig here is just to use some reason advantages when it comes to music writing and composing skills (cause there s nothing so pleasent and practical like reason to work with). That s why I d like to put it all inside cubase and don t care about using reason when I m done. Then I want to covert as many tracks I can into audio in cubase to save CPU power.

You say I can control reason s midi inside cubase.. I ve never been able to do it..have u?
TuK
TuK

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Posted : Jun 4, 2006 09:56
its hard for me to understand what your actually doing, but you should have no problem using the reason instuments in cubase and automate the reason parameters inside cubase, yes ive done it and use it all the time, it sounds to me that your are not doing something right,when you use rewire you dont have any use in the reason sequencer you should use only the cubase sequencer. im not close to my computer but do you acivate the rewire chanels in cubase, im not talking about opening midi chanels im talking about activating the harware output that you connect the instuments in reason in cubase, im not sure where you do it but i think its where the device setup is you have on option "reason" and thats where you activate the rewire chanels. but if you know this already read the manual and see what your not doing right.
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Posted : Jun 5, 2006 02:27
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On 2006-06-03 21:09, ess765 wrote:
yes Tuk,
when I rewire I activate the rewire midi channels individually. My point is that I can t edit reason s midi tracks while it s on slave mode to cubase. All I can do is to listen to the reason tracks inside cubase but I can t do any ediing while it s rewired cause the midi controller won t affect reason. What I m trynig here is just to use some reason advantages when it comes to music writing and composing skills (cause there s nothing so pleasent and practical like reason to work with). That s why I d like to put it all inside cubase and don t care about using reason when I m done. Then I want to covert as many tracks I can into audio in cubase to save CPU power.

You say I can control reason s midi inside cubase.. I ve never been able to do it..have u?


I am also a reason fanatic for now, still instead of using the mixer(only makes you loose quality... just try doing this... connect a malstrom/redrum/sampler... to two different mixer mono channels and compare it with a normal stereo connection....then turn the pan of the left channel on the mixer all left... the other too...right?there are a few more tricks but you can already see what i mean!?!? my point is forget the reason mixer... create midi's in cubase and assign it to reason instruments...***i don't have a midi controler but this should be when you connect it****** if still you like to use reason midi's like me, you can always xport reason midi files and import them back in cubase...
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ess765
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Posted : Jun 5, 2006 08:59
Hey guys,

sorry but my question haven t been answered here, so I ll try again:

1)how do I convert a midi track (let s say a bassline track performed with VB-1 vsti) to an audio track in Cubase?? Do I have to export this midi as audio and then import it back through the pool? (that would take a long time if you needed to do it with 30 midi tracks) Or do I have any other more practical option?

2) And what about if this bassline is from Reason which is rewired to Cubase? How do I convert the Reason s midi tracks into Cubase s audio track? Will I have to export each recorded midi instrument one by one as audio an than import to cubase via Pool ??
Get-a-fix
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Posted : Jun 5, 2006 12:14
^^
I can only anwer your first question..Say you want to convert a 16 beat bassline pattern into audio..First select the pattern, hit "P" on your keyboard this will automatically place the beginning & ending markers (very handy!) Hit "solo" on the midi channel

Then go to file --> export audio mixdown --> check "import to audio track" and you're good to go..Make sure you choose the correct settings for the wav file..Hope this helps..           http://www.soundcloud.com/getafixmusic
ess765
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Posted : Jun 6, 2006 02:01
thanks a lot for your help S-Cube. That s exactly what I imagined...they could have made our lives more simple..but..it s ok.
About my second question it must be the same way as your answer, for sure. Or maybe I can convert the midi to audio directly with reason and then import it to cubase. I loved the tip on pressing "P". I ll begin a topic about it..that s something that wuold be great if we spread such handy tips among us all.
Squarepusher
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Posted : Jun 6, 2006 03:23
You can also start managing your key combinations to the operations you do most ...

To export audio in Q-base its Shft+W , like S-cube said about the hitting "P" to locate the markers in the part you want to record,after that Shft W ... there are lots of key combos i use that make my day much easier...
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