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Cubase bounce prob

vstDOG
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 27, 2007 14:22
Got a strange problem here using SX3. When bouncing down a track the new clip block that's created has a small tail that goes beyond the timeline I indicated.
It's a very small tail and you need to zoom in in order to see it.

Could this be my soundcard?
I admit I haven't got a uber soundcard, only a SBlive! Value running KX latest version.

Any ideas why something like this would happen?

vstDOG.
Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Sep 27, 2007 14:25
happens here too , allready got used to cut this tiny little tail that will fuck all your looping thingo           www.sattelbattle.com
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vstDOG
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 27, 2007 14:42
Feck...so I'm not the only one aye?
What is that...a Cubase bug???
That sounds very unlikely as Steinberg surely would have fixed it....

vstDOG.
Auralviolence


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Posted : Sep 27, 2007 16:58
I think that it's not a block of the new clip. Btw, do you mean midi-track's clip or audio-track's clip ? Did you have any insert/send effects on tracks that are bounced ? May be these effetcs provides tails/releases, and when you bounce it - there appears the click when audio gets interrupted ? I'm sure that it's not a bug. IMHO all is ok, as it should be, and the problem is that you need to understand the proccess why this click or something appears - that the reason why the default tail's time is 10 seconds whan you freeze VSTi or an audio track - the reason is: the preventing audio interruption.

If I've understood your problem incorrectly, than, please, upload the small peace of your project with at least one problematic part - and we'll see: is it a bug, or is it the problem of your bad understanding of the audio procceses... IMHO you do something wrong, and it's not a bug
Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Sep 27, 2007 17:12
i dont think so bro
he meen in audio bounce
when create 2 markers
u want exacly whats in the markers only no delay or reverbs
and still there is micro tail , but simple cut it works           www.sattelbattle.com
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Auralviolence


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Posted : Sep 27, 2007 22:18
On audio or on midi(vst) tracks ? Even with no any plugins (not only delays reverbs) on insert/send ? Because if there will be even any IIR EQ in insert - it's already possible that the clip/click may occur in the end. Because even EQ can "spread" the sound in time. As the result - the "cut" audio interruption may occur in the end of part if it gets mixdowned from marker to marker. And it's better DO NOT mixdwon anything from marker to marker, and leave some silence (or insert empty silence clip, and mixdown it too) before the end-marker. That's not a bug.
Auralviolence


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Posted : Sep 27, 2007 22:50
And don't forget that Cubase has very nice and complicated automatic plugin delay's compensation system. This may affect on this case too. So insert the empty clip/part in the end and mixdown your "range" with this empty part/silence included, and all will be ok.
vstDOG
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 28, 2007 02:44
Quote:

On 2007-09-27 22:50, Auralviolence wrote:
And don't forget that Cubase has very nice and complicated automatic plugin delay's compensation system. This may affect on this case too. So insert the empty clip/part in the end and mixdown your "range" with this empty part/silence included, and all will be ok.



This seems to also happen without any plugs insertred (or sent) into the channel.

Have a look at the following screen capture here:

http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imageei7.jpg

This shows Cubase @max zoom after bouncing down an audio track.

The project file can be downloaded here:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/jtwibd

Really strange stuff this...

vstDOG.


Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Sep 28, 2007 04:59
dont waste ur time too much its just a bug in your sx version like mine and all u can do is cut this right after bounce its only 1 second anywayz
well if u do find solution that dont involve new install pm would be appriciated          www.sattelbattle.com
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Meta
Meta/Boomslang

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Posted : Sep 28, 2007 07:59
I've never seen this. Which version of SX3 are you using? 3.1.1?
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vstDOG
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 28, 2007 14:05
yep...it's 3.1.1

Elad, you're right, it's easily fixed just by alligning the blocks every time you bounce but still it would be interesting to find out why this problem is happening and weather it's a steinberg bug, a H2O one, or something else...

vstDOG.
makus
Overdream

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Posted : Sep 28, 2007 14:32
is 'snap to zero crossing' on?
          
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Auralviolence


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Posted : Sep 28, 2007 17:37
Ahh)) Now I understand what are you talking about

Check this mark on: Preferences->Editing->Delete Overlaps

Look what it does http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9305/overlapsrb5.jpg

I said that it's not a bug
vstDOG
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 29, 2007 05:04
Auralviolence, the same thing happens with 'Delete Overlaps' turned on. I just tried it and still the exported track block has a tail

vetDOG.
Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Sep 29, 2007 05:05
id say makus is more close to the answer
the main problem is to make the loop obviously
overlapping shouldnt be there from the first place
now zero cross point might be good reason for that to happen
tho i will always say its bug cause i remember perfectly clear its not happening in other versions , surprise enough is i use 3.1.1 also
snip it is the only way i come to answer           www.sattelbattle.com
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