Chimp in Space
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Posted : Aug 29, 2011 02:58:06
Hi Guys anyone wanna share how to make leads like these examples. Not the melodies, but the synthesis and processing behind it. When I make leads with supersaws it's not even close to this crystal clear sounds.
ex. 1 at around 1:28ish forward.
ex 2. main lead 2:30ish forward
ex 3. main lead 4:40ish
ex 4. Main lead at 3:40 forward
many many more examples from hommega artists and utopia as well that have so good mixed in leads. Anyone that are willing to help?
panike
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Posted : Aug 29, 2011 04:36
I do think the magic of those leads,are the notes played... can't help you how to do it but they remind me that old days of gataka and ananda shake
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zero_the_hero
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Posted : Aug 29, 2011 11:18
I would start with a typically trance supersaw
with short sustain/release or with a short gate on every note. Here is a tut how to do the trance supersaw with synth1:
zabot
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Posted : Aug 31, 2011 20:45
Like Panike says its not only the supersaw its the notes to ... and the correct cut off automation... check the mother of all leads here in isra . and good luck
a good melody can make an horrible synth patch sound good!
the synths you said are pretty but no massive imo. they are just well placed.
good synth, good reverb, carefull eq. to make them fit the track and so on.
TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 1, 2011 03:17
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On 2011-09-01 03:05, Trevon wrote:
a good melody can make an horrible synth patch sound good!
agreed. i wasn't too blown away by the xamples actually, i've heard amaazing orchestral supersaws in trance tunes tho...
all about the melody and harmony.
honestly once you have the concept down, just mess with it a BUNCH and listen very close to how you change the sound...
the basic concept being...
detuned saw waves. i'd say the max you can detune and still have it be very musical is about 30 cents. adding more oscillators makes it 'thicker.' adding modulation effects like chorus and flanger also makes it thicker.
a trick i recently learned is to modulate the pitch of one oscillator subtly with an LFO. gives the same waveform as square wave PWM. badass stuff.
from there, just add reverb to add space... then EQ, probably cutting mids and hipassing, to fit with the rest of your mix.
woodster77
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Posted : Sep 1, 2011 15:17
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On 2011-09-01 03:17, TimeTraveller wrote:
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On 2011-09-01 03:05, Trevon wrote:
a good melody can make an horrible synth patch sound good!
+100 so true
very true but it works the other way round as well....a good patch can be very inspiring
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faxinadu
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Posted : Sep 2, 2011 02:28
to me, just my personal taste, this is one of the most overused sounds in trance and honestly it doesn't even sound so nice to me, don't really get why it became such a staple sound.
take almost any vanguard factory patch, tweak a bit, there you go.
if you want it with more quality then go for a virus or k-station.
here it is with v-station:
you can do it with almost any synth but those that have fat/unison modes will sound much thicker.
faxinadu
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Posted : Sep 12, 2011 09:27
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On 2011-09-12 04:29, Chimp in Space wrote:
Thank all of you and your answers
It did not really get me there yet, but close.
With guys like you always answering q's in this forum. I know I am in good hand in my learning process.
Thank you
- cheers
no worries, soon you will be answering questions too, and everyone is always learning, the day i stop learning i might as well call it quits, because the end of learning is pretty much the end of inspiration the way i see it The Way Back
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Chimp in Space
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Posted : Sep 16, 2011 20:25
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no worries, soon you will be answering questions too, and everyone is always learning, the day i stop learning i might as well call it quits, because the end of learning is pretty much the end of inspiration the way i see it
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Thank you In the future I hope I could give great advise as well. Your words speaks my truth of life. I think that it is a general principal to all knowledges such as sciences, sports, music etc. The learning process never ends. Our bounderies should always be open.
