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dlx
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 12:37
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Wondering how everyone works here: do you make patches "on the fly" while you are producing music?
Or do you create your patches one day and make music the other day?
I'm wondering how everyone works cause i find that when i have inspiration writing music its hard for me to sit down and start programming a patch (then it comes into consideration aswell that i'm a beginner and only just learnin the very basics of making a patch).
Right now i'm still going threw many many presets from others all the time while composing a tune, but its really starting to annoy me - i guess i'm at the point where we all come one day: its time to start writing my own patches and personalise my music in this way aswell.
So how do you work? 
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igneous
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 13:14
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why dont you just go thru presets and tweak them to get them right? that's the easiest way man, probably, and you dont end up using exactly the patch that is offered by the preset.
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dlx
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 13:17
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On 2006-01-26 13:14, igneous wrote:
why dont you just go thru presets and tweak them to get them right? that's the easiest way man, probably, and you dont end up using exactly the patch that is offered by the preset.
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Thats a good idea aswell, thanks
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sy000321
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 13:50
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learning how to patch takes some time!
start by tweaking default patcheds and save them everytime you think you got a nice one (that way you'll have a good starting for the next tracks)
with time you'll understand what each "component" of a synth does and you'll easily come up with sounds faster...
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index
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 16:13
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I save all my patches,categorized them and allways work on them.
No need for tweaking from scratch if u have already some cool modulations to work further with.
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e-motion
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 16:28
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well it depends. there are some simple patches that i can do on the fly that usualy i make while composing but probably i have them already saved
but oh well my normal work order is this. first i search the synth bank for some nice patches (or maybe a bank i downloaded from the web like cosmosis')... when i stop on one i try to tweak it until i like it and save it.
i do this until i have a bank of my own. now i only work on my bank (maybe on the another if i'm tired), saving (without overwriting) everything i do that is good (this is not while composing but when i have no inspiration or nothing to do)...
you'll reach a point where you can do patches on the fly from a blank preset... now you're having your REAL bank hehe. i can do 5min leads in vanguard that are bombs from a blank patch (my best lead is one of these hehe)
congratulations you've mastered your first synth ! next step... albino (this will take way longer lol) |
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john_c
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 18:55
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my crucial advice is this: if u can, have 2 stages for productiong. A patch developing phase and a song writing phase. when i try to combine both steps into the same process, then it takes me AGES to complete a song and i lose track of what i was doing. So what I do is have periods of time where I develop new patches in mind with the kind of sounds i want to go for. Then when I write songs, I find patches that r close to what i need and tweak so its perfect. of cos its not so black and white and sometimes i have ideas in my head where i dont have a patch and then sometimes i am able ot create the patch right awya, sometimes i get stuck. but if possible, DO try to divide both tasks into different times. good luck |
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Brain Hacked
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 23:21
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I loose a lot of time dfinding the sounds i want when creating a song; so lately the method john_c is using has been beter for my, one day i spend time sound designing and other maing the track. |
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dlx
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Posted : Jan 27, 2006 00:09
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Thanks for the advice guys
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Jan 27, 2006 06:02
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On 2006-01-26 12:37, dlx wrote:
Wondering how everyone works here: do you make patches "on the fly" while you are producing music?
Or do you create your patches one day and make music the other day?
So how do you work?
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Both .. There is no rulls with music .
Some time im finding my self made
some synth , Put them in a folder and
working with those sounds weeks or
month later but at the same time all
can happen alive . No rull man ..
Just do what you feel is right for you
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DJ Kontakt
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Posted : Jan 27, 2006 08:25
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it would be ttoo hard to explain my process...
i guess i start with a sound and evolve it in to a song
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WAVELOGIX
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Posted : Jan 27, 2006 08:33
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i produce patches on the fly , since its easier for me to visualize sounds i need in the track @ tht point in time ...
but consdiering ive been producing for 3 yrs now and have a reasonable amount of systhesis knowledge , it dosent really take me long to translate the sound and get going along ... |
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fregle
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Posted : Jan 27, 2006 18:41
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for me it's exactly like for wavelogix. |
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Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 28, 2006 13:10
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i use all kinds methods, the one that you use john_c and also igneous and wavelogix.
Sometims i know which kind of timbre im after and its easier to do on the fly.. but sometimes a well label´d patch library can be super nice when looking for contrasting sounds...
though i havent made any good librarys yet..I think
a good library is when everything is sorted, from pads to FX!, ect, ect and so on...
i have alot of job to do... 
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NikC
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Posted : Jan 28, 2006 14:09
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Use the right sound for the right place:
The sound that is right for your piece of music!
If it's a sound in your head that doesn't exist as a preset - then try your hardest to make it!
But if there's a preset of almost exactly the same sound as you want... use it, and then tweak it until it's becomes like the sound in your head.
I tend to make patches 'on the fly' anyway - i enjoy the challenge of audiolising (like visualising - for sound)... and I enjoy the process!
But none the less I have tweaked presets in the past...
Anyway, it's the end product that counts isn't it?
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