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AudioMadness
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Posted : Apr 6, 2004 20:40
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my freind is planning to build a studio....
so he asked me what is better rme or pulsar,i have rme and im very very happy with it....
tell me what u think is better......
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Vik
Brain Damage
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Posted : Apr 6, 2004 22:39
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Pulser off corse
in pulser you have alot off good options that you can make good sounds
but it's not easy 
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Toxical(rotem)
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Posted : Apr 7, 2004 02:20
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On 2004-04-06 22:39, X-Ray/Brain Damage wrote:
Pulser off corse
in pulser you have alot off good options that you can make good sounds
but it's not easy
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actually u wrong in a coupleof ways..... the RME can get u alot better sound then the pulser... rme recording (the convertor) is much much more better the creamware.. the pulser have alot of "toys" that coms with at.. nice for an amature(ofcours u can do alot of gr8 thing with at but it deppends on how u use at or for what u use) .. but .. rme's sound and qualty is much better..
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motorik
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Posted : Apr 7, 2004 10:38
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O.k.
creamware is based on a strong DSP cards which means that you can use many onboard plugins,synths,samplers,etc (as many as the DSP allows you) and that all comes from the DSP processor and doesn't take any CPU from your computer hence you don't have to get A super duper master computer to work with many synths\plug's.
Luna II have 3 DSP (lowest) Pulsar scope have 16 DSP (i think it's their highest).
On the other hand nowadays you can buy a very powerful coputer with not so much money and use the regular VSTi's and plug's without too much problem (if you use it wisely). the VSTi's are also getting better all the time.
As a luna II user (which is the basic card of creamware , like pulsar but the first) And a former LYLA (echo) user i would say that if you are not intent to use the DSP or if you intent to make other music then electronic like live recordings music you should think twice before buying pulsar.
I don't know RME but as rotem said pulsar convertors are not so go IMO and if you intent to record stuff (guitar , drums etc) you should buy the one with the better convetors.
Pulsar is great mostly for electro music IMO.
As for me i wish i had the LYLA back , I don't use the DSP instruments too much and i can't get a good recording like i 'd want it to be from the LUNA.
Hope that helps
salute
motorik
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Kaz
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Posted : Apr 7, 2004 13:48
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The ADDA converters on a soundcard are one of it's major limits, as this technology requires a shitload of care for details, from the low-end chips on soundblasters to the high end $3000+ dedicated converters, there is really a wide range. Top of the line ADDAs are out of the question, as they cost more than brand new RME cards (RME have some external high performance ADDA boxes as well in case you aren't happy with yours).
The mid-range converter market (not quite as shite as the creative cards and not nearly as expensive as the ones for massive hundred-thousand-dollar studios) is dominated by AKM, and RME tend to use their high performance chips. The m-audio delta 1010 also uses similar chips (if I'm not mistaken, the same chips as the RME Hammerfall), but RME is just the best choice when it comes to crisp audio at a price range of around $1000, while creamware is very limited in this (very important) part.
In short - RME is a more basic card, no heavy-duty DSP effects and stuff, but, RME does the basics as good as it gets under $2000, while creamware cards are surpassed in these things by cards like the m-audio delta1010.
If you have a strong PC and/or are intending to upgrade it in the next 2 years, you will be in much less of a need of a creamware card in the long range, while the RME will remain a solid workhorse until you are willing to dish out twice it's price in a soundcard.
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deejayridoo
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Posted : Apr 7, 2004 15:53
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iīm looking for a good audio interface for years now (itīs so disgusting), because itīs all so expensive and, as iīve learned through my experience with hardware syths and samplers, i donīt buy things in a rush anymore, cause they loose in value every few months - thats not motivating at all. on the other side, i wanna make high quality music. most of my friends have shitty soundblaster live... as a compromise i bought egosys waveterminal u2a 3 years ago. itīs ok but not professional at all (for example there are terrible noises that appear all of a sudden, you cannot have cubase running and listen to winamp to look for samples at the same time etc).
now i know exactly what i want, but i havenīt got the money right now.... (i wish i had never bought this shitty hardware equipment, especially this fucking emu e6400 sampler that was so expensive that i could have bought everything including all the software legally instead...)
iīd definitely go for:
RME DIGI 9632
(be careful cause there are verx similiar sounding products at rme - itīs the 32, not the 36)
itīs an all in one solution with excellent adda converters, superlow latency and even audio outs (the other rme products only have stupid digital outs, so you canīt monitor your music without a digital amplifier or active monitors... - there are plenty of stupid things like this you have to take care of when looking for a good priced interface)
i hope this will help you not to go through all this pain i went through!
peace and good luck!
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deejayridoo
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Posted : Apr 7, 2004 15:56
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oh, i forgot to mention that this wonderful product is far below the prices you were talking about. itīs only 410, something like 380 us dollars. |
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aykondour
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Posted : Apr 7, 2004 18:37
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For me no doubt RME multiface!!!
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Tegma
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Posted : Apr 9, 2004 12:53
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