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mquirk1
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Posted : Jun 5, 2009 04:48
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i'm interested whether they're talking low shelf at 100 or a solid HPF. high passing at 100hz would sound like absolute shit 99% of the time.. unless, as has been mentioned, the bass from your kick/tail takes up most of that frequency range. but to be honest i don't think i've ever heard a track where this is the case, in any style of dance music. even with a really long kick you still need some bass notes to fill up the bar. 30-40 hz yes, maybe even 60 in some fullon tracks where the bass is pitched very high, but 100 would sound terrible |
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mquirk1
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Posted : Jun 5, 2009 04:51
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btw as for whether club systems produce below 100 hz, ever heard space cat/pixel clear test signal at a club? "test number one, clean test signal, 40hz *insert earth shattering rumble*" |
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XuN
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Posted : Jun 5, 2009 06:21
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Sometimes I make 3 basslines over eachother.
1st: from 28hz to 70hz
2nd: from 65hz to 150hz
3rd: from 140hz to 300hz
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vegetal
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Posted : Jun 5, 2009 09:48
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On 2009-06-04 22:28, Enertopia wrote:
90hz is not 100hz.....
Kick does not have below 100hz either...both summing 100-125hz and nothing below, man, all I can say, is that I really dont like this type of mixing.
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Well done Captain Obvious!
I said "at like 90Hz", an estimate if you excuse me for not being so exact, i was at work when i wrote it so i had no possibility to actually find the correct answer. Hope you forgive my ignorance 
And just because you filter doesn´t mean you remove all freq under 100Hz, a 3 to 6dB cut's fairly nice to round of the bass.
And one more thing when i mean character for instance in my case i used alot of tube simulators , everything from tube preamp-simulators and tube-compressor-simulators which adds all that warmth we are so fond of but in my case it was a little to much so a the built in ableton filter gave that nice cut to give nice headroom in the mix
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why now eveyone says 70hz-100hz? so 40hz is to shit now?
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Don´t take it as a general rule that you apply on all basses, learn to use different techniques for different scenarios ( read diffrent bass-sounds and characters)
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and no pissy comments from u vegtal
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Wooot what have i done now,
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gutter
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Posted : Jun 5, 2009 10:05
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highpass at 100 superLOL
logc bomb have of the fattest and more sub mixes since ever, their bass frequencies dance all over the 30-100 Hz area
this is plain crap
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the daleks
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Posted : Jun 5, 2009 11:14
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On 2009-06-05 03:34, Colin OOOD wrote:
Maybe they were taking the piss?
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I agree with Colin here. I was talking with the producer from Astron awhile back, and he told me something like they always high-pass the bass around 125. I thought it was pretty ridiculous when I heard it, but after multiple 'are you serious man' s he held a straight face.
I got home and tried it and realized he must have been taking the piss out of me, as it took ALL of the meat out of the bass. They have a live drummer, so that might of been the reason, but I found it inapplicable to my own style.
I also agree with Vegetal though, that compression and effectors can beefen up your sound enough that cutting in the 90s or even up to the high 90s might be appropriate, but still its gotta fit the case. No general rule on this, unless you want to sound like ultra-plastic.
Psy bass is fast, so you have to account for that, but I've always been partial to a deep bass sound with lots of subs.
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Luckily though I've resisted so far.
...or have I?
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my guess is that you probably have Gamma Riders EP out now on iTunes and Amazon.com!
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Chemogen
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Posted : Jun 5, 2009 11:44
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On 2009-06-05 03:34, Colin OOOD wrote:
Maybe they were taking the piss?
"Oh mister superstar producer, tell me how to make my tunes l33t like yours?"
"That's easy little person, simply hi-pass the bass at 100Hz, frequencies below that aren't illegal but they damn well should be." <hyuk hyuk hyuk>
It's certainly a temptation I've felt after being asked the same question for the 20th time! Luckily though I've resisted so far.
...or have I?
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When a buddy of mine first got Cubase and was trying to get into production, a well known SA producer who he was acquainted with said he''d show him the ropes...He promptly set the poor dude's project time signature to 3/4, told him to always keep it like that, said all Psy was written in 3/4 and went on his way. |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 5, 2009 11:49
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Elad
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Posted : Jun 5, 2009 12:09
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jizy
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Posted : Jun 5, 2009 13:10
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i admit i ask for advice when i know im close to a few fundimentle truths....
but when working on your own, and have only this fourm as your guidence, sum shit like this gets bounced about... like people believed the world wus flat.. only to relise it wasnt.. are you christopher columbo our the dumb fucks that thought it wuz flat 
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 5, 2009 16:35
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jizy
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Posted : Jun 5, 2009 17:19
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Fair enough Brother.......
then u must learn what is right logically yourself, spend years of dedication and be driven to succeed in the Sonic mayhem. Truth, Quality, Drive,belief,concept, imagination and most importaint Vision
i spose if i had a pm system in my room id be able to tell if 40hz is wrong to 90hz
bla bla bla bla bla bla
i spose u could cut 90hz in the mix and give it an artifitial bottom when mastering no? to much confusion
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Elad
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Posted : Jun 5, 2009 18:36
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On 2009-06-05 16:35, Colin OOOD wrote:
I think it's also sometimes a case of people defending their territory against competition. There's only so much money to go round in the scene and people who rely on psytrance to pay their mortgages could possibly see new producers as a threat to their livelihoods.
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come on now!
so they tell to people to HP @ 100hz ?
LOL come on mate..
they just would never pass your demo to the organizer , they will talk dirty on you , and they will not answer your requests to remix their music (or demand rediculus high prices for it). they will not wait extra hour and will try to get you off stage if "their time" has come regardless to when you start playin.. they will go and tell people that they are better blablabla.. but not about filters ?!$T%$%@#@$
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faxinadu
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Posted : Jun 5, 2009 19:11
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warlock
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Posted : Jun 5, 2009 19:26
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On 2009-06-05 03:34, Colin OOOD wrote:
Maybe they were taking the piss?
"Oh mister superstar producer, tell me how to make my tunes l33t like yours?"
"That's easy little person, simply hi-pass the bass at 100Hz, frequencies below that aren't illegal but they damn well should be." <hyuk hyuk hyuk>
It's certainly a temptation I've felt after being asked the same question for the 20th time! Luckily though I've resisted so far.
...or have I?
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lmao....good one OOOD  |
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