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analytics
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Posted : Oct 23, 2006 22:46
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I've been having CPU usage issues with my freaking computer from a very long time.
I start a project in Cubase SX 3 - add a couple of audio samples into stereo audio tracks, open up a couple of midi tracks for vst's. i use vst effex on audio tracks and midi tracks - and after a while upon adding more samples, vsts or effex the freaking computer can't handle it anymore and there are bleeps and gltiches. the mix down comes out fine but working on the project in real time becomes impossible.....
1st let me give u the low down. I have these specs:
AMD Athlon 64bit 3000+ (2.4ghz processor)
1GB DDR ram
Abit - KV8 Pro Motherboard
2 x IDE Hard Drives (30GB each)
E-Mu - 0404 Pci card (with DSP)
ATI Radeon 9800 (256mb)
M-audio BX5a monitors
These are mad mad specs and it SHOULD provide adequate room and processing power for heavy Cubase projects.
after adding about 4-5 heavy vst's like - vangaurd, korg legacy, imposcar, albino, ....the comp almost goes into crash mode!
the cpu usage touches 80-90% usage levels. I use a lot of samples (i dont use them thru a sampler like kontakt - i just use them as individual sound pieces in stereo audio-tracks).
WHAT CAN I DO TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM????? |
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Scala
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Posted : Oct 24, 2006 01:59
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E X P O R T T T T !!!
export them 1 by 1 , what 2 do ? u have a very strong computer , maybe u have a problem , cheak it , untill than , export , take the audio chanells with most sends , export them also , or save presets and , put them thru the righr click button... |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 24, 2006 02:46
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Meta
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Posted : Oct 24, 2006 04:39
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Honestly, these days an AMD 3000+ isn't all that fast anymore. Several of the VSTs you mentioned, especially the Korg Legacy, are very CPU hungry, and if you have 5 VSTs like that and a few insert FX on them, that can easily be 100% CPU right there.
Also, check the number of "Voices" the Vanguard is running, there are a few patches I've loaded on a machine with a similar CPU spec that maxed out with the Vanguard running ALONE. I had an arpeggio playing, and the CPU steadily crept up from 5% to 100% over the course of 20 seconds.
Turns out the "Voices" setting was set at 32 on the patch I had selected, which is totally unneccesary, I lowered it down to 4 and the CPU usage immediately dropped down to a reasonable level. I'm not sure if this is a bug, as even an arp wouldn't use so many voices, but perhaps it was due to built-in delay FX sustaining notes so they overlapped or something.
And Scala and Colin both gave solid advice as well.
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illusions
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Posted : Oct 24, 2006 06:37
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Colin's right about checking the latency on your soundcard. I have the EMU 0404 as well - and i've set my latency to 50ms and things work quite smoothly (except for some spectrasonics plugins where i have to lower the latency a bit).
Also try one of the Tweak guides for XP ('Optimizing Windows XP for Audio'). Worked wonders for me |
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Crying Orc Project
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Oct 24, 2006 08:51
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hey !
clean your pc from the inside !!!
clean the cpu venta,
if your pc used to run better at start, and just now after a while u get some cpu troubles, u MOST clean your cpu vent every
3 month, and if u got a dog (which leaves hairs everywhere) + u smoke near the pc,
u should clean your pc every 2 months. hehe
not really difficult jub,
clean your cpu vent and tell me if it's running better..
i know it worked for me 
+ if u usung allot of fx which allot do,
just export those channel who got allot of fx
effects on im.
good luck ! |
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illusions
Erebus
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Posted : Oct 24, 2006 11:51
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hahaha. thats hilarious. cleaning the dust out of your computer makes it run faster
good joke crying orc. |
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sideFXed
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Posted : Oct 24, 2006 12:44
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reduce the running services of your xp
start - run - services.msc
google for the services that are started. alot of them aren't necessary
there's a nice tool called "enditall 2". it lets you disable all programs except the absolut minimum.
check also your irq's, so your sound card isn't on the same irq as your graphic card.
try asio4all as an alternative asio driver.
probably it won't be any better than the one your using now, but still worth a try.
also try to use decent vst's. there are things around that isn't properly coded. you can run in denormals, cpu heavy delays and whatnot.
another thing you could use is this pci latency tool. often your fancy graphic card is slowing down the pci bus, when your audio card needs all the attention.
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/PCI_Latency_Tool/1105467085/1
use these things carefully. do some research before you change anything.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 24, 2006 15:08
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orange
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Posted : Oct 24, 2006 15:12
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analytics
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Posted : Oct 25, 2006 05:21
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Thanks a lot to everyone who replied to this post....
Not to sound like an absolute ungrateful dick - but - I have tried every single trick mentioned here....
EXCEPT.........
The Offline-Processing BEAST. By far the most amazing solution every found....WORKED wonders for me and now i'm back to cranking out the madness.....
regardless of the amount of vsti's i'm running....
READ IT RIGHT HERE --
*** http://www.studio-central.com/cubase_sx.htm ***
I wonder why I never thought of that?????
Sorta like the export....but far far less effort required 
It's best when placed onto audio slices....so if ur running fat ass vst effex like PANTHEON....then process the freaking audio slice offline!
Thanks for all ur help guysss
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illusions
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Posted : Oct 25, 2006 06:50
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On 2006-10-24 15:08, Colin OOOD wrote:
Actually this can work. Dust on the CPU cooler will make it less efficient, which makes the CPU heat up. This might make the CPU throttle back in an effort to do less work and generate less heat.
Know your facts before you laugh.
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Your CPU would have to heat up quite a bit before you realize any degradation in performance. Usually the BIOS would have a heat alarm set that goes off before there is a noticable performance hit to save you from frying your processor anyway.
Facts known |
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Oct 25, 2006 14:23
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On 2006-10-24 04:39, Aeon wrote:
Korg Legacy are very CPU hungry
Scala and Colin both gave solid advice as well.
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And not only the Korg family but many others to . Stylus , D'cota , Cube + hundreds goods and greats . I have in my computer 50 differents Vsts and much more elments and effects . I like working with Dynamics opitions and reverbs , The blue family , Eq machines and more . I think if you work right (As a producer) You will find yourself realy fast in a big Cpu problem .
I buy me 1 more giga and now with 2 all is excellent . Computer work great , Never stuck or freeze in a middle of important project . All is 100% . Thats all .
Good luck .. ! .
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 25, 2006 14:32
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On 2006-10-25 06:50, illusions wrote:
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On 2006-10-24 15:08, Colin OOOD wrote:
Actually this can work. Dust on the CPU cooler will make it less efficient, which makes the CPU heat up. This might make the CPU throttle back in an effort to do less work and generate less heat.
Know your facts before you laugh.
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Your CPU would have to heat up quite a bit before you realize any degradation in performance. Usually the BIOS would have a heat alarm set that goes off before there is a noticable performance hit to save you from frying your processor anyway.
Facts known
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I've known more than one person who was having performance problems that were solved by cleaning the cooler. Different motherboards, chipsets BIOS configs and CPU combinations handle extreme heat in different ways... and a lot of dust on cooling vanes will degrade heatsink performance more than you think as it stops air from circulating.
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Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine
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Posted : Oct 25, 2006 15:12
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Dust influencing the Cpu .. ? Sound weird and hallucination .
But why not .. Ill try cleaning the all of my computer today and see .
I will publicize my lab inquiry , Consequence and Conclusion soon ! .
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