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Dark el kante
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Posted : Apr 3, 2011 18:39
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On 2011-03-03 23:14, Karash wrote:
Concerning this pseudo live act like almost everybody do is really disrecpectful of what is a real LIVE. Personaly I don't do that and I am not able to do. I use ableton live and I mix it in with 2 audio channel and I use time warp. So organizers they all put LIVE but it's not (marketing) . A real live is with patterns and loops. And the worse is artists who just put trax after trax in ableton and put play.
I think I saw that only one time in my life with 3 guys in a wood and 3 machines. One for the bass, another for rythms and another for lead. Amazing by the way.
In conclusion I think they should found another name when u are playing your trax. What is the difference to mix with CD player or in ableton :S.
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My respect to you, I totally agree in what you said |
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Posted : Apr 4, 2011 14:43
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On 2011-02-19 17:38, montezuma wrote:
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On 2011-02-18 14:30, demoniac wrote:
i would like to play long sets also, 2 hours is not enough to make a killer vibe on the dancefloor.
Cosmo has a lot of collaboration with insector, highko, kindzadza, psykovsky.... so it's not 100% cosmo music all the time.
Also i play some tracks from other artists in the middle of my live set, why not? it's all about the party vibe, you make too many rules today... just enjoy the music 
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i dont agree here with your point of view
if ppl called you for live act they promoted you as a live act so you should play 100% your music, yes you vs others collaborations is ok but other artists music no i dont think that should be the case.
about the 10 hours live act i wont comment because i never saw cosmo live performance... make some videos from the party so u can show us the live performance 
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Touché!!!
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Elad
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Posted : Apr 4, 2011 19:54
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willsanquil
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Posted : Apr 4, 2011 20:57
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Posted : Apr 5, 2011 13:09
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i have to say that cosmo is a very VERY good dj, if you are into hi-tech high bpm stuff he is one of the best you can listen to, ive heard him play many times in the last years and it has always been very good, but once again you have to like this kind of music and be open, if you dont like it, probably you wont enjoy it at all.
he plays similar style like gil in the morning i would say, more powerful, crystalline kind of tracks, good for dancing and parties, but you know what? he mixes! every track, with very good technique. he provides a similar experience as psykovsky does, but psykovsky is definitly more abstract and experimental, more avant-garde to say.
playing 'live' does not exist in dark psytrance, its absolutely impossible, you can add stuff and samples, but thats about it, the rest is just mixing tracks in different ways. thats the whole point of the complexity of the style, the hard work in the studio. parties are for blasting the music loud, its not about performance or 'musicianship'.
cosmo is completely able to keep it going for a long time, he will play many tracks and collaborations and even tracks his friends did, so maybe the term live is not exact but it describes it much better than 'dj set', because its really his music or his 'crew'. this is something that is done by many artists all around the scene, specially in such long live sets, and specially people that influenced so many projects like psykovsky or cosmo.
ive actually have a long deep yearning of attempting a 24 hour set, i will give it a try when they allow me . i think with darkpsy is completely possibly to do it, there is music for every party of the day .
so yeah with the long live sets , dont care if they are mixing or re arranging tracks, same thing for me, and i really think you need a long time to create an atmosphere.
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willsanquil
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Posted : Apr 5, 2011 18:39
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This has been discussed many times, but that is not in any way shape or form a "live" act to me, and it is an insult to acts that actually do play live to call it as such.
That's a DJ set.
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Dogon
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Posted : Apr 5, 2011 18:43
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On 2011-04-05 18:39, willsanquil wrote:
This has been discussed many times, but that is not in any way shape or form a "live" act to me, and it is an insult to acts that actually do play live to call it as such.
That's a DJ set.
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This!
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Posted : Apr 5, 2011 19:18
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I have experienced at many parties this sittuation when between 5 live acts there is a good dj and he totally blast the party. Still people ask for live or they dont know better.
Promoters are stupid, they dont know what they are buying, crowd is stupid they dont know what they are offered.
Artist just comply with the promoters desires.
While all this happens Psy parties get more boring, new artist doesnt have ways to show their music to the crowd and nobody cares about buying music cause nobody gives a dime about dj's in this scene.
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aXis
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Posted : Apr 5, 2011 22:28
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On 2011-04-05 19:18, Login wrote:
Promoters are stupid, they dont know what they are buying, crowd is stupid they dont know what they are offered.
Artist just comply with the promoters desires.
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what position are u at ? promoter/ audience or are u one of the artists ?
and megalopsy just said everyhting he cud but its still a dj set. i mean the party is all abt blasting music ? then why not have winamp auto mix ur playlist ?
it is all about the performance . all of it. if u say otherwise , just means u are shy of performing urself and not confident of wat u do .
i fail to understand why wud someone call themselves musicians if they can not re create their music in front of an audience.
so basically cosmo is doing a dj set ( which can get boring depending on ur taste ) .
and in the words worlds number 1 live act - djs are bitches. |
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willsanquil
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Posted : Apr 5, 2011 22:34
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if you think that it is easy or anything less than incredibly hard to recreate psytrance (especially fast, glitchy darkpsy) in a live environment then you are delusional.
That shit is hard to do. VERY few people do actual live sets that are more than re-arranging stems in Ableton or doing DJ mixes with their own material.
There is nothing wrong with this. For instance, Electrypnose does an audio based re-arrangement set. Is anyone going to honestly tell me that Electrypnose isn't much of a musician?
What I have a problem with is saying it's live when it's not. An ableton based audio-rearranging set is a DJ set. To me, a Live set is when you pay an actual instrument, or sequence MIDI and tweak synth parameters in that moment. You know, create something in that moment that didn't exist before.
Whoever said DJs are bitches is a fucking moron. Also, anyone who agrees with that statement is as well. DJs are just as important as live acts and a lot of the time are more enjoyable to dance and listen to.
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Posted : Apr 5, 2011 23:38
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Jacynth
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Posted : Apr 5, 2011 23:41
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On 2011-04-05 23:38, filter wrote:
holy shit, im so sorry for participating in this topic , it disintegrated too quickly
all yours guys
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no problem exist. comunity hope you art looking forward now. thnx. |
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willsanquil
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Posted : Apr 6, 2011 00:08
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I don't think it disintegrated, and I think your post was very informative and contributed to the discussion. Thank you for that
Would you consider itOK to call that a 10 hour live act?
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In that case, maybe people should start booking Gil as a live act
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aXis
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Posted : Apr 6, 2011 05:03
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aXis
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and yes electrypnose himself told us that he does nt want to be promoted as a live act.
n ye he does a performance. which is wat we talked abt . his performance , in and out of the studio is more than a million other psy artists. u chose a very smart example , but hey, how many electrpnose - like musicians do we have in psytrance .
the answer is lol.
and yes im a moron , but ur a mormon. n ye djs are cunts , bitches watver. thy actually do not promote or contribute to the music in any way. they generally end up being promoters , and start the psytrance squat smoke chillum politics.
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