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Chemogen
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Posted : Apr 20, 2011 12:44
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On 2011-04-20 08:29, Login wrote:
Which brings me the question, its possible to recreate electronic music live in the same quality of the recorded versions?
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For stuff like minimal techno, I imagine it's very very possible.
When it comes to Psy I don't expect the act to do everything live. My minimum standard for a real live psytrance set is that the artists at least changes the tracks up a bit from the original - and it's so easy to do, there's really no excuse not to.
You can easily bounce out versions of tracks without certain leads, FX or percussion parts, premix them all down and then trigger new ideas, leads, FX etc in real time during the gig. |
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filter
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Posted : Apr 22, 2011 20:29
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i agree definitly  , i like when its just few artists that have a lot of time to create their atmosphere, thats why i agree with the idea of long sets, whether you call them live or dj set or whatever.
i saw shpongle live and it wasnt really moving for me anyways. for me shpongle is part of the argument where you can say that live does not neccesarily mean 'better'.
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Posted : Apr 22, 2011 20:38
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i saw shpongle live and it wasnt really moving for me anyways. for me shpongle is part of the argument where you can say that live does not neccesarily mean 'better'.
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Good to know. I guess it would be more of a concert or show.
Regarding changing up elements in a track in a live psytrance set, I don't know. It's kind of like, when I fall in love with a certain guitar riff on an album that maybe bends the note a certain degree giving you that tingly feeling, for me there are psytrance tracks that have that kind of thing going on and to me those are the juicy bits that I wouldn't want necessarily changed when played live. I suppose it would depend how they're changed. If they were gone altogether I'd probably miss them and would prefer the original thing be played.
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Posted : Apr 24, 2011 10:24
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heard that in Russia cosmo is planning to play in summer seven-hour set, rescue my brain:)
somethings always out there... |
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MॐZC4L1†0
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Posted : May 3, 2011 23:16
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not even one hour 
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psytik
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Posted : May 3, 2011 23:20
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On 2011-05-03 23:16, MॐZC4L1†0 wrote:
not even one hour
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what u mean ? |
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V3NOM
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Posted : May 6, 2011 03:38
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Ok so the "live" argument had me thinking.
I'm a big fan of a certain compilation in the non-psy Balance series http://www.discogs.com/Joris-Voorn-Balance-014/release/1639822 where he basically took samples & loops of 102 tracks and mixed them in the studio to make a new journey.
It makes me think of the old tape splicing that DJ's did in the early days of Goa.
In such, I think I am quite happy with the fact that seeing an artist or DJ who has spent say a week or two minimum remixing & structuring a perfect story, then just hitting "play" live would be a wonderful experience.
I mean yeah in the end you do just see a dude on stage with some gear or a laptop or decks, and unless you are behind them on the stage you'll never know the truth so why get upset about it?
I know it's a change of my tune, but in the end I want a musical journey that takes me somewhere & that's all that matters 
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Adigroovy
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Posted : May 6, 2011 10:54
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besides the discussion live or not, his 10 hours set last wknd here in Belgium wooow, still recovering in a way, so just respect for that. don't really care how they call it at the end, it's all about music
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Posted : May 14, 2011 02:47
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i am sure that pieter can keep the dancefloor on fire for 10 hours and the freaks of high teck psy will love it hop hop
about the live act issue. dont forget that we are in still in the psytrance scene. i know maybe 5 acts that play realy live for the rest we call it live act but it is not realy. i stop already years to put live or dj on our line up because the people come for the artist and it will be make not a difference if the artist play with cd or with the computer.
in the outher electronic scene like minimal, techno, electro, ... they play only live act if the organization really request but 90 % they are playing each time dj set
beside that... if it rock the dancefloor nobody care on what you play
keep it whicked
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Posted : May 14, 2011 05:11
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On 2011-05-06 03:38, V3NOM wrote:
In such, I think I am quite happy with the fact that seeing an artist or DJ who has spent say a week or two minimum remixing & structuring a perfect story, then just hitting "play" live would be a wonderful experience.
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Some big acts like GMS and Hallucinogen have been known to craft a "live" set in the studio that they will then play on tour for some time. It gets old quick, particularly if you travel and end up hearing the same set twice... or, in the case of GMS, if one guy doesn't show up and the other fills in by playing the same canned "live" set a day after the first performance.
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Posted : May 14, 2011 07:53
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In such, I think I am quite happy with the fact that seeing an artist or DJ who has spent say a week or two minimum remixing & structuring a perfect story, then just hitting "play" live would be a wonderful experience.
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Some big acts like GMS and Hallucinogen have been known to craft a "live" set in the studio that they will then play on tour for some time. It gets old quick, particularly if you travel and end up hearing the same set twice... or, in the case of GMS, if one guy doesn't show up and the other fills in by playing the same canned "live" set a day after the first performance.
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+1 to V3NOM
-10 to the same "live" set twice in a row.
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V3NOM
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Posted : May 15, 2011 04:42
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On 2011-05-06 03:38, V3NOM wrote:
In such, I think I am quite happy with the fact that seeing an artist or DJ who has spent say a week or two minimum remixing & structuring a perfect story, then just hitting "play" live would be a wonderful experience.
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Some big acts like GMS and Hallucinogen have been known to craft a "live" set in the studio that they will then play on tour for some time. It gets old quick, particularly if you travel and end up hearing the same set twice... or, in the case of GMS, if one guy doesn't show up and the other fills in by playing the same canned "live" set a day after the first performance.
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+1 to V3NOM
-10 to the same "live" set twice in a row.
Respect!
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True about repeating the same set, but for example I went and saw a local friend of mine do a "live" show with and artist who did an installation display, and while my mate had crafted his set in the studio he left enough space in the sounds to incorporate some live tweaking, sound & glitch with his Virus TI making it obviously different each night.
I've found a lot of mix CD's outside of the psy scene recently that were obviously done in studio and not a live mix, but the tweaking and re-editing and layering brings so much more to it than a standard DJ mix CD or podcast.
I think technology today offers so many avenues for amazing explorations into electronic music performance but it seems that many DJ's and live acts are stuck in thinking the same way and are almost afraid to think outside the square at all.
As i said, I saw Danny Howells do a massive 9+ hour DJ set recently spanning from ambient to chillout to glitch to tech house to prog house to to prog trance to techno to minimal to acid to whatever. It was the best DJ set I've seen in years! And he did just use 3 CDJ1000s & 2 x vinyl decks.
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