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Cosma - Did he have a vision of his death?
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Neville Bone
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Posted : Apr 8, 2005 11:10
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Dear Friends,
With all respect to one of the greatest trance artists ever I am asking you:
When you listen to Cosma's album - Non stop do you think that by listening to the sounds,the melodies,certain vocals & the malincony in this album that Cosma actually had a vision that he was gonna die soon.
If no listen to it again and open your ears and hearth to it.
P.S:
If you don't feel like listening to the whole album just listen to the 1st & last track.
Track 1 starts with a vocal saying "The time has come"
Last track - This melody defiently expresses Cosma's feeling & sentiments.
R.I.P COSMA
You are a wonder.
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HandA
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Posted : Apr 8, 2005 11:18
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No offense mate but your "theory" is nonsense. And it's only a Theory. Not reality!
It's amazing what people "see" in things. Kinda funny  |
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pr0fane
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Posted : Apr 8, 2005 11:21
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Neville Bone
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Posted : Apr 8, 2005 11:46
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Handa.
If it's a theory it can be reality, it all depends on your opinion.
I have already discussed this with many people not online and many of them agreed.
Many others listened to the album again and said it's true and that they never noticed this before so......!
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a3k
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Posted : Apr 8, 2005 11:50
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about he saw his death..well it is very hard 2 speak of something like that and i donīt think if it really happened we will ever know..only by himself...
the 1st track is very subjective about thix events, but i can see your point of view..really the lyric "the time has come"is point of u wonder isnīt it?something i already thought..but the thing that 2 me really matter is the music by him!great isnīt it?
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HandA
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Posted : Apr 8, 2005 11:56
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On 2005-04-08 11:46, Neville Bone wrote:
Handa.
If it's a theory it can be reality, it all depends on your opinion.
I have already discussed this with many people not online and many of them agreed.
Many others listened to the album again and said it's true and that they never noticed this before so......!
Opinions made the world move forward!
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Again no ofense but to me it's mumbo jumbo what your saying. Just because some people think the same as you does not make it reality! To say that he knew he was dying because you can "hear" it in his music is 100% nonsense. Then many many atists around the globe in many genres of music would fit that "theory" too. All the artists that have died young or before their time over the years also wrote songs that could be interpretated as if they knew they had to go! To sum it up:
It's just music nothing else. It's not a crystal ball predicting the future.
I have listend to his music and I never found any evidence to what your saying! Music can be interpretated in so many ways. But to say that he knew his time had comed is too far fetched!
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It's easy to make people "see" something that "they haven't noticed before". We all strive to find the meaning of life and many times we end up overanalysing things  |
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Neville Bone
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Posted : Apr 8, 2005 11:58
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On 2005-04-08 11:50, a3k wrote:
the thing that 2 me really matter is the music by him!great isnīt it?
Yes it is great and his melodies are superior to many others beacuse of what he had in his heart.
I also love the work and melodies in his album "Simplicity" too but the feeling from "Simplicity" & "Non stop" is totally different in my opinion.
May God save your soul Cosma.
I'm sure he did. |
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Neville Bone
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Posted : Apr 8, 2005 12:05
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On 2005-04-08 11:56, HandA wrote:
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On 2005-04-08 11:46, Neville Bone wrote:
Handa.
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To sum it up:
It's just music nothing else. It's not a crystal ball predicting the future.
What???
Music nothing else!
Yes maybe you can call most of today's music "Just music & nothing else"
but itsn't the music one produces supppose to express the artists'feeling?
That is why very few artists make a difference in the scene because they produce what they have in their hearts.
If this not done so then the music will have no special feelings and then it would become as you call:
"Just music & nothing else"
Respect Handa,
I respect your opinions:)
Peace.
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HandA
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Posted : Apr 8, 2005 12:15
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On 2005-04-08 12:05, Neville Bone wrote:
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On 2005-04-08 11:56, HandA wrote:
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On 2005-04-08 11:46, Neville Bone wrote:
Handa.
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To sum it up:
It's just music nothing else. It's not a crystal ball predicting the future.
What???
Music nothing else!
Yes maybe you can call most of today's music "Just music & nothing else"
but itsn't the music one produces supppose to express the artists'feeling?
That is why very few artists make a difference in the scene because they produce what they have in their hearts.
If this not done so then the music will have no special feelings and then it would become as you call:
"Just music & nothing else"
Respect Handa,
I respect your opinions:)
Peace.
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I think you misunderstood me here.
When I say it's only music and nothing else I mean that it's music and not a sience, a religion or the answer to whatever you need it to be the answer too It's music!
And yes music have emotions and feelings and should come from the composers heart. I know when I make music it come straight from my heart.
I was merely saying that it's individual what people hear and feel when they listen to music. But still you have no way to know what the artist think unless he told you. Now I am 100% confident when I say that Avichen did not predict his own dead via his music. The only thing he knew was that some day he was going to die. Just like we all know. That's a fact of life
He just did music he felt for and liked. And it happend to be emotional music that people tend to overanalyse. |
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CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Apr 8, 2005 13:09
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On 2005-04-08 11:56, HandA wrote:
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On 2005-04-08 11:46, Neville Bone wrote:
Handa.
If it's a theory it can be reality, it all depends on your opinion.
I have already discussed this with many people not online and many of them agreed.
Many others listened to the album again and said it's true and that they never noticed this before so......!
Opinions made the world move forward!
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Again no ofense but to me it's mumbo jumbo what your saying. Just because some people think the same as you does not make it reality! To say that he knew he was dying because you can "hear" it in his music is 100% nonsense. Then many many atists around the globe in many genres of music would fit that "theory" too. All the artists that have died young or before their time over the years also wrote songs that could be interpretated as if they knew they had to go! To sum it up:
It's just music nothing else. It's not a crystal ball predicting the future.
I have listend to his music and I never found any evidence to what your saying! Music can be interpretated in so many ways. But to say that he knew his time had comed is too far fetched!
last:
It's easy to make people "see" something that "they haven't noticed before". We all strive to find the meaning of life and many times we end up overanalysing things
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space tribe-you create your own reality!
respect,
CRX,athens
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Neville Bone
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Posted : Apr 8, 2005 13:44
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Ok Handa,
As i said previoulsy I respect yours and everyones opinion.
Let us 2 stop discussing this for a while and let the other members give us their opinion cause if not theyll get bored with us!
One last thing but:
In rock music there are the lyrics which express the artits'feelings.
In poetry their are the words & phrases and many today still study these poems to see wht the author wanted to say to us and these things are thought in schools.
I believe the the melodies in good trance make up for the direct lyrics.
Although,
You are very right in saying that one can just assume these things as only the artist himself can know waht he felt in those particular momnets but on the other hand I don't feeil it's right to tell me or anyone else that the subjcet is senseless!
I respect your opinions.
Do you?
Opinions made the world move forward!
Peace & Respect!
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HandA
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Posted : Apr 8, 2005 13:58
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Although,
You are very right in saying that one can just assume these things as only the artist himself can know waht he felt in those particular momnets but on the other hand I don't feeil it's right to tell me or anyone else that the subjcet is senseless!
I respect your opinions.
Do you?
Opinions made the world move forward!
Peace & Respect!
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Now I never said it was senseless. I said it was nonsense and I stil think so. That does not mean I think your stupid or anything like that.
Yes I value other opinions but I still think that gives me the right to say what i think just as you say what you think. If we all agreed the world would be a boring place.
Again I doubt you'll find many that will back up your idea that he foretold his own destiny in his music. That's just way too far fetched mate. But it's your right to think so just as it's my and any other persons right to tell you we think your wrong.
And if people think I am boring because I debate then I am ok with that It's their right to think so |
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traveller
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Posted : Apr 8, 2005 14:11
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On 2005-04-08 11:10, Neville Bone wrote:
Dear Friends,
With all respect to one of the greatest trance artists
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One might disagree witht hat quite strongly..
"The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
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headyatail2000
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Posted : Apr 8, 2005 14:21
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neville..kinda absurd post..
<~< "the best things in life aren't things" - art buchwald >~> |
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KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Apr 8, 2005 14:26
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cheerz