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COPYING MUSIC IS A THEFT (campaign)
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nobody_3
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 16:15
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The score is now 2:8 in favour of the "ones" I will not mention here !!!! (If I did I am sure my post would be erased and my IP blocked)
Zombi I thought you were more openminded 
Or maybe I just did not get your irony? That happens you know
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traveller
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 16:21
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On 2003-10-29 15:17, Zombi wrote:
and traveler - as somebody who till one year before was DOWNLOAD all your music and been cinic about ppl who actualy bought, well, u just not a function in a customers world.
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riiiight.. dunno where you got that idea from.. MAYBE FROM YOUR TRADER PARTNERS!! i mean you are a member of GEM.. we all know it dude!!
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Zombi
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 16:24
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dude i just was in this forum when u asked about all this unrl fake trax, when u opened threads like "can i download in my free time ??", when u gave a reasons why u download. dude, memory is a force:) u have something more to say ??
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Synthax
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 17:06
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Chi
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 17:25
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On 2003-10-29 15:17, Zombi wrote:
this compaign maded by israelis and for israelis. some of the fake-cd-makers been busted and been found a STRAIGHT connection to terror organizations, its a fact. now all u worlwide smartass can yell as much as u want and need, but WE die on the streets in the end of day.
AND its not a point of this compaign, but a teach stupid kids and your fathers to not let u burn cds at home, not download and not show off with your 1500 unrl trax. again, u can bitch/yell or whatever, but soon your fathers will kick your ass and send u work at fruit shop to reach a money to buy your music.
and traveler - as somebody who till one year before was DOWNLOAD all your music and been cinic about ppl who actualy bought, well, u just not a function in a customers world.
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UTTER... BULLSHIT.
How can you believe that? The cd mafias connected with terrorism? How can you be so naive...?
There is proof? What kind of evidence? The Fbi or Mossad told the media?
Who thought terror groups traffic cd's... and i thought they trafficked "smaller" things, like drugs or weapons!
That is politically motivated bullshit, a campaign by record companies in order to use the terror in israel so that they can bump their sales.
Anyone who doesn't see that, either is blind or doesn't want to see!
I may live far away from israel, but you don't need to live in a country in order to understand politically motivated campaings...
BTW... even if a cd-burner guy lives in israel and hates the country/has, had anti-israel propaganda when was busted, it doesn't mean he SUPPORTS terrorism... |
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Synthax
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 18:05
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i think you chi missed the whole point of this campaign and that cause some unknowledge of the laws in israel and the control over the writen and broadcasted word here.
since the sensitive situation we live here, there is no way we where able to be putting this on air without prooving it before in a deep research and visiting with tv cameras along the past year or two, showing the public what is done under the big mess of the war handled in the occupied teritorys against artists and against the software vendors, the fake industrys that been built there do masssive dammage to known and unknown artists, to big and small software companys, and all that not for private efforts, if you been understandiing what happening in those areas you wil shure noticed this poor citizens didnt hang out for quite long time with their free money in their wallet pushed into their back pockets...
its been discussed on mass media here before and i link you to some newspaper and you can also ask more people from israel in this discussion that are aware of the authoritys activity against piracy that beeen spreaded massivly in our small country and also in the rest of the middle east arab countrys.
the people in those areas must make efforts out of sth, they find this market as a graet way to fuck the west word systems, its same as taking a lunch bag of a poor boy or attacking poor old citizens or childrens if you ask me, it just that by bombing inside a citizenship area you wont get any money so you get the money from coping music and spreading faked software.
this issue is a known fact actually, we just remind now all of you that by doing home coping, you putt yourself in the same level as other fakers and it aint realy a good company if you ask me. being a thief is anyhow aint a way of living, if you like it or not its a crime, even if you THINK that you away of paying for it, you still doing a crime.
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nobody_3
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 18:32
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I would comment on that Synthax since your comment about proof seem quite "black and white" in my opinion but it's better to leave it alone before this thread get's too political and deleted by the moderators...
Anyway I think this thread has gone far away from it's original question/comment.
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Zombi
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 18:46
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Chi, u dont understand - there is a big market of fake cds out here in Israel. You can buy a cd with print cover and all at 1/8 cost of original cd. Those fake cds partly (most of them) been made at factorys that after Mossad and Army checked who is a owners of found that they are connected to torrorists. We talk here about millions NIS monthy, prety good buisness and much less dangerous than weapons or drugs (that also for sure connected to same ppl). thats all.
now you all have to decide to buy those "cheap" cds or not.
As a ex-distributer worker i also know exact numbers of cds sold in Israel of any title and i can promise you every small shop that sell a fake cds sell more in one day than a whole distributer that work with alot of shops.
Home burning its a another topic, i hope everything is clear about it, we have to teach next generation about moral and new standarts. its quite impossible to cause to those ppl who download couple of years chenge their mind, but its possible come to fresh parents and tell them keep a eye on a kids before they get used to free music.
I hope politic will stay away from this thread, now its looks everything been said about it. No politic here, if there is some facts that ppl should know so its one of them for sure.
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Chi
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 19:30
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Well, i still retain my original opinion.
Anyway, i think i should abstain from commenting or even viewing this thread, this is becoming way too political for my taste in trance.
BTW, this is becoming too frequent in this forum...
I think the "one side" should abstain from racist comments and the "other side" should avoid backlash and criticising. |
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Zombi
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 19:33
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what racism you talking about ?? the ppl who make the fake cds (not all, some of them) been busted, arrested and during the process found that they are terror organiztion connected. the money they reach from making those fake cds didnt went to their families but to their commanders from ....
and yeah, realy, enough.
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planet_zohar
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 19:45
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uzmc...well nice subject that is close to your heart
and also a nice way to publish the agency u work in.
let's take a walk on the proogy side |
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Zombi
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 20:04
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ma tishte mr. uzi ??
(what would u drink mr. uzi ??)
i saw this compaign when it was unreleased and im sure some will think about it, great work synthax and co':)
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Synthax
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 20:45
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nice publicity to my office.. you realy think you guys are my office target market? or you making a practical joke here 
unreleased.. you can give it to whoever you want, i anyway aint see a dime out of it... hehe
you can be shure its only cause i love you all i done it, along as other great worx.. HHE
like the green party (HAYEROOKIM) that won 5 seats in the election to tel-aviv town court just yesterday, so now im happy since this party was acctually been started on my work desk early 98', i also draw then their logo, and my compagnion for the job wrote their 10 comitments and the first anouncements, and he now in charge of the winner campaign, all was done for NO effort trust my words, we payed by other clients then those, this exact works are done only and only for the help of the sociaty we live in, and if once you be finding me standing in the line and fight for somthing, its only cause those issues, artists rights and keeping off the polution from our kids are so closed to my heart.
and even things went out of context in this discussion  try to remember just that after all:
theft of music in virtual ways is a theft as in a real store, treat the theft music as a bad thing, and try to keep some values in yourself, cause if you, that apreciate good music and willing to talk of it and listen to it all day long wont do it, then who will...? |
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planet_zohar
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 20:55
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well maybe its time to change the subject to elyakim and uzi...?
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traveller
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 21:07
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i wonder if these terrorist fake cd factories are as true as iraq's wmds 
doesn't israel have laws agains fake cds anyways? if you start selling em here the cops will find you within days..
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