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Elad
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Posted : Mar 7, 2007 05:55
com'on gimme your secrets

i like to make gated reverb and phase delay last times also glitched delay

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Posted : Mar 9, 2007 08:42
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Posted : Mar 9, 2007 13:19
i barely use sends these days, with some much cpu power available, and with all plugs having a dry wet ratio, seems like its much less needed...

cool thing with sends maybe is to do stereo stuff, like send a chaneel to two sends, one send panned left and one right, with dif reverbs on each send or something.           
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TuK
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Posted : Mar 9, 2007 15:31
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On 2007-03-09 13:19, faxinadu wrote:
i barely use sends these days, with some much cpu power available, and with all plugs having a dry wet ratio, seems like its much less needed...

cool thing with sends maybe is to do stereo stuff, like send a chaneel to two sends, one send panned left and one right, with dif reverbs on each send or something.




for some reason i get the reverb to sit "right" more easily if its a send effect. i personly use send effects for regular reverb/delay nothing more.
Sound Surgeon
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Posted : Mar 9, 2007 16:27
If you put a few filters (PSP, Filter VST) with a gate and reverb+delay, you get those really impossible sounds. Ah and I make automation on the effect level. works like magic!
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Posted : Mar 9, 2007 22:32
Can someone explain what send fx are?
PsYx
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Posted : Mar 9, 2007 22:51
Send fx are fx inserted on a bus...
So you can send any channel trough an effect
that's on 1 or more busses...
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Posted : Mar 10, 2007 02:26
Well, not sure if this is what your after but this might work, especially for delays and reverbs...

First, send your audio to an fx unit with a pre-fader aux, and then pull down the volume fader of the audio channel all the way down. This way the original sound will be muted and you'll only hear the effected part of the signal. You can then bounce that down to audio, and do all sort of funky things like gating, reversing, glitching or whatever you like and when you are done, playback this processed sound along with the original dry signal. It should sound pretty dope
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Mar 10, 2007 02:38
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On 2007-03-10 02:26, unproject wrote:
Well, not sure if this is what your after but this might work, especially for delays and reverbs...

First, send your audio to an fx unit with a pre-fader aux, and then pull down the volume fader of the audio channel all the way down. This way the original sound will be muted and you'll only hear the effected part of the signal. You can then bounce that down to audio, and do all sort of funky things like gating, reversing, glitching or whatever you like and when you are done, playback this processed sound along with the original dry signal. It should sound pretty dope


Good idea In SX you can also directly export the FX return without pulling the original fader down etc - just select it as the output in the Export Audio File window. Saves altering your mix, too.

I'm a fan of flanged reverb/delay... try sticking a good chorus on a plate reverb, too... mmm shimmery.
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Posted : Mar 10, 2007 02:59
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On 2007-03-10 02:26, unproject wrote:
Well, not sure if this is what your after but this might work, especially for delays and reverbs...

First, send your audio to an fx unit with a pre-fader aux, and then pull down the volume fader of the audio channel all the way down. This way the original sound will be muted and you'll only hear the effected part of the signal. You can then bounce that down to audio, and do all sort of funky things like gating, reversing, glitching or whatever you like and when you are done, playback this processed sound along with the original dry signal. It should sound pretty dope


Good idea In SX you can also directly export the FX return without pulling the original fader down etc - just select it as the output in the Export Audio File window. Saves altering your mix, too.

I'm a fan of flanged reverb/delay... try sticking a good chorus on a plate reverb, too... mmm shimmery.




Oh, I didn't know that. Very cool, thanks
Mike A
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Posted : Mar 10, 2007 04:44
How about eq's and compressors as send effects?

Something which I like doing a lot, is let's say I have a vocal sample going and I'd like to emphasize a certain phrase or word, I have a reverb going over all of it, and during that word I put on a delay and eq (using automation) to make it a different sound.
faxinadu
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Posted : Mar 11, 2007 08:15
ya, but verything described above can be done with an insert fx using the dry/wet knob, or with offline processing.           
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Meta
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Posted : Mar 11, 2007 09:31
Well, I think you'll find that's increasingly the case for most stuff. The concept of Send FX in general is seems to be becoming a relic of hardware studio days, and weak CPU days from years passed. As you mentioned, now you can just make a bunch of instances of the same insert FX without worrying about CPU, and the offline thing was unheard of just a few years ago.

But using both of those methods is now often easier than sharing a send with other instruments and synchronizing the levels between them etc. Obviously I still use sends for delays etc but often with chorus/flange/stereo type stuff I fund myself fine-tuning with offline processing instead of using sends.
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PoM
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Posted : Mar 11, 2007 15:32
you can try to add a limiter add the end of the chain,something like ,delay> verb >eq > limiter ,if you use convolution reverb try to add a chorus after it to give some modulation like a real one.
NikC
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Posted : Mar 11, 2007 17:42
There are some things you can only do with sends though...

Like splitting a sound into three 'parts' all of which pan past eachother and then meet in the middle.

Or adding a reverb which only reverbs a certain range of frequencies - but that range is automated.

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