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constant casette quality

ZakFenlon
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Posted : May 1, 2008 16:20:38
is there any way in which i can have my system sounding like the quality from an old tape , u know so when im writing my music it already sounds old like when i found an old Astral Projection tape , the quality isn't great., cheers
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Posted : May 1, 2008 16:43
hishelf + loshelf + (very mild) distortion + very slight pitch modulation + white noise / boost somewhere between 6-12k?

alternatively you could just record your mixes to an old tape



ZakFenlon
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Posted : May 1, 2008 16:45
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On 2008-05-01 16:43, -aeon- wrote:
hishelf + loshelf + (very mild) distortion + very slight pitch modulation + white noise / boost somewhere between 6-12k?

alternatively you could just record your mixes to an old tape


thats what i would do , put em on an old tape but i mean so it sounds like its on a tape when im doing it





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Posted : May 1, 2008 17:15
Honestly, the easiest and most "high quality" solution for this is to bounce the mix to tape and then record it back in. I'm sure you could build a system for this for 50 bucks or less.
While i'm sure its theoretically possible to make a perfect tape emulation plugin, the problem is it would take someone with deep DSP audio knowledge and expertise in stochastic modelling. Stochastic modellers can command too high a premium doing more interesting projects than audio so that will most likely never happen.
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Posted : May 1, 2008 23:33
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On 2008-05-01 17:15, heretical wrote:
Honestly, the easiest and most "high quality" solution for this is to bounce the mix to tape and then record it back in. I'm sure you could build a system for this for 50 bucks or less.
While i'm sure its theoretically possible to make a perfect tape emulation plugin, the problem is it would take someone with deep DSP audio knowledge and expertise in stochastic modelling. Stochastic modellers can command too high a premium doing more interesting projects than audio so that will most likely never happen.



altho im sure a good tape emulation plug has been released...
what exactly is Stochastic??
it sounds interesting....
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samplitude am-track - crank the input gain.           .
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aXis
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Posted : May 2, 2008 10:36
bitcrusher ?? Lol. U guys taking the long way !
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On 2008-05-02 10:36, aXis wrote:
bitcrusher ?? Lol. U guys taking the long way !



AFAIK bit crusher reduces the bit depth, it doesnt make it sound at all like tape?
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Posted : May 2, 2008 16:50
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altho im sure a good tape emulation plug has been released...
what exactly is Stochastic??
it sounds interesting....
sorry for thread hijack



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_processes
Its basically the opposite of a deterministic process like what a digital plugin would do to a signal. Same result everytime for the same input signal. To me this is the fundamental reason we don't have good analog emulation(or more precisely better discrete models of continous signal processing). There is a degree of randomness/probability involved but its far more subtle than adding a randomn lfo/signal to any one digital parameter.
Its overkill though for what we are talking about. A cheap amp/deck can do real tape "emulation", it will just take 2X the length of the audio(record to tape, playback, record in)
Speakafreaka
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Posted : May 2, 2008 17:07
who said anything about a bit crusher?

am I being blind?

honestly, enquiring minds wish to know!
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