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CLAW
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Posted : Feb 7, 2005 13:03
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Hey guys, I tried to find something similar in order to avoid starting a topic, but it seems that nothing covers my questions...
Im not asking about your pc that u have in your studio, I just wanna learn what is the best combination of parts taken to build a pc, in order to fullfil the production needs and meets the latest technology...
My pc is getting very old, and Im thinking of buying a new one. I got some info from a couple of guys, but with your help and experiences, I think i will get what Im looking for... 
Current specs i have been give from a couple of guys are:
Asus mother board 915
pentium 4 / 3.2 or AMD 64 bit
256 vj card (with own memory)
1 gb RAM (Kingstom)
& a case the ones they use for servers with lots of fans...
Ok guys, lets see your opinion 
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JeSuS
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Posted : Feb 7, 2005 14:15
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if you plan to use case with lots of fan...
There will be GREAT noise from this case...
and if you work on night  |
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Fragletrollet
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Posted : Feb 7, 2005 15:50
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I use a MSI k8Neo Platinum Mobo, Athlon 3500 HT (939 socket, 648kb cache), 1 GB of OCZ ram (2,5-3-3-7) + disks. Everything but powersupply and HD watercooled. It works perfect, also because I run my radiator without fans... its chilled enough.  |
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Spindrift
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Posted : Feb 7, 2005 16:08
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You will always get a lot conflicting advice when asking what parts to use, and I will give my recommedations from my experience as well.
But the best advice I think is to first decide on what sequencer and soundcard you are planning to use.
Then contact the manufacturer of the soundcard and ask them what mobo, memory and gfx they use when testing the card with the sequencer you are planning to go for.
That way you will get free advice from ppl who really know, and be pretty much guaranteed that the system will run smooth.
At least it will be hard for the soundcard manufacturer to not do their best to help you out and try to blame your configuration instead.
Otherwise here is my 2c about good components:
Most people seem to agree that AMD is the one to go for nowadays.
ASUS motherboards tend to be very good for audio use.
Although they have improved I would still say that you should stay clear of VIA chipsets and get one with nForce instead.
Seagate disks has good preformance and is much more quiet than other brands I tried.
A good and strong power supply is important nowadays as well...I would not settle for less than 350w for sure.
And unless you have too much money, instead of getting the latest CPU make sure to get plenty of good RAM, a nice lasermouse and good screen.
It will do more for your productivity than having a few 100 mhz extra.
And I agree that a quiet case is quite important.
I have an Antec sonata with very quiet psu and chassi fans and rubber mounting for the harddrives.
But make sure to get a quiet CPU fan as well or preferably water cooling if you feel you can afford.
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TRANCER
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Posted : Feb 7, 2005 18:09
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great advice by spindrift,
Ya CHP the config you r thinking about will definitely
help you make a good daw but dont go for a cabinet with too much fans.
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CLAW
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Posted : Feb 8, 2005 02:49
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@ Spindrift :
Well yes, u have a good point on asking the manufactures... But i dont think anyone will reply to my e-mails and I will simply loose my time asking and sending e-mails...
I can just ask a couple of friends, ppl from the forum or a couple of artists, what they use and if they are happy or they thing that something is better or not...
Im curtrently using an M-Audio - audiophile 24/96...
@ TRANCER :
Ok, I see the point why i dont have to get such a case... A good case with power Inside will make me happy... im not so worry about the case, i just thought about it cause i thought it will be usefull...
Well guys anymore advices and experiences???
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Triplex
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Posted : Feb 8, 2005 10:50
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what I did with my amd64 3000+ is that I got a simple case that does not have any fans.
I got a cheap ASUS 9250TD - 128 MB which does not have a fan as well. It has a DVI output so you are able to put a second monitor (either dvi or vga using a dvi2vga adapter). Its cool for windows (2d) but don't expect to run the latest 3d games at 100frames per seconds.
I got a ZALMAN 400 WATT SILENT ZM400A psu and a ZALMAN CNPS7000B cpu fan. they are very quiet and they do the job in terms of temperature. the max temperature I've seen (after 7 hours of non stop intense cpu use) was 45c.
if you plan this to be your audio pc I think it will do the job.
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Kitnam
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Posted : Feb 8, 2005 11:38
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dude, the most important is the combination of ram and cpu, and the secret weapon of a good cpu is the cache. because the cache is something like a preordered ram where the cpu puffers high-frequently used operations. audiotracks and vst need big puffers because the cpu need to generate the audioinformations in realtime and if you have a big cache your cpu will have a big pool where it is able to pick up important informations fast and easy.
in such a system you have 2(or 3) hierachic caches in the cpu (level1 and level2) and the ram which is nothing else as an extern level3 cache. a cpu which has a big cache is the pentium 4 prescott (some are different, ask for 1024 kByte L2 cache).
1024 MB RAM will work well with that, maybe kingston or infineon.
the mainboard should be something without any things "onboard" like graphic or audio. as more onboard as more uneccessary BUS-traffic on the system. buy a simple cheap mainboard (i made very good experiences with MSI-boards, cheap and reliable, highquality)
if you are a gameplayer its better not to buy any high-end geforce or ati cards, because such things are loud and noisy mostly.
and you should search for quiet harddiscs and maybe (if your budget has 80€ left) an atx-powersupply from the firm called "be quiet". |
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Spindrift
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Posted : Feb 8, 2005 14:07
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On 2005-02-08 02:49, CHP wrote:
@ Spindrift :
Well yes, u have a good point on asking the manufactures... But i dont think anyone will reply to my e-mails and I will simply loose my time asking and sending e-mails...
I can just ask a couple of friends, ppl from the forum or a couple of artists, what they use and if they are happy or they thing that something is better or not...
Im curtrently using an M-Audio - audiophile 24/96...
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I don't know how helpful the guys at M-audio is, but I know people who got very good advice from creamware and RME, so I think it's worth a try with them as well.
I built a few rock solid machines based on soundcard manufacturers advice.
A cheap motherboard normally means a VIA chipset, the nForce base boards is normally more expensive.
I would say that the motherboard is the last thing you where should accept a cheap one.
ASUS nForce boards rock, but is sure not really cheap.
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CLAW
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Posted : Feb 8, 2005 14:15
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Spindrift
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Posted : Feb 8, 2005 14:59
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I'm not too clued up on current pentium boards and chipsets.
I would go for AMD64 or Operton myself, but if you get an exceptional deal on the parts a pentium system will work fine as well I guess.
P4 processors depend a lot more on using built in functions on the chip to get maximum speed and the special instruction sets for it never became very popular with developers due to being awkvard to implement.
Thats one main reason why the P4 flopped and AMD got such an upswing.
Not many plugins make good use of the architecture of the P4 still AFAIK.
Getting a 64 bit sytem can be more future proof as well, but it will for sure take a while before audio software is running in 64bit on a 64 bit windows.
I never used a brand new P4 system like that, so I'm just speculating a bit and can't say I know about the performance from experience.
Everyone I know that built an audio system recently went for AMD and have been very happy with the stability and performance, but nowadays very few ppl seem to use their systems to the limit since they have so much power anyway. And compatability issues seem to be more rare as well.
But I would still feel safer going down the AMD route.
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Kitnam
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Posted : Feb 8, 2005 15:33
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64bit is a little bit to early, you are right but maybe in 1-2 years its state of the art. i made experiences with AMD for years and it was always a reliable system.
now i changed to p4 for a half year and made very good experiences with it, very stable and very powerfull on the other site i cant say much about the actual AMD processors i only know that the "newcastles" have 512Kbytes L2 cache which is not as powerfull as a pentium "prescott". for a good 1024 Kbyte cache you need to buy AMD "clawhammers 1024" (min. 200€), believe me a low sized cache is the same as a low sized RAM which you cant fit later! |
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Spindrift
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Posted : Feb 8, 2005 17:10
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You might be right that the higher cache makes the pentiums more attractive ATM.
An AMD with 1Mb is quite expensive from what I can see.
The AMD64 +3700 with 1MB costs double to a socket 775 pentium4 at 3.2Ghz.
I probably go for the AMD and suffice with the
Asus K8N-E DELUXE instead of the much more expensive P5GD2 Premium.
Then in the end with normal prices you end up spending 100 euro more for the 64 bit system.
But like I said, I have not checked up on the new P4 systems and is not familiar with the i925XE chipset.
It might kick ass, and it might very well be worth considering.
From my uninformed gut feeling I am still in favour of getting an AMD 64, but a system with 1Mb cache can be a bit costly still so Kitnam could be right that Intel has an advantage ATM.
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EYB
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Posted : Feb 8, 2005 17:33
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Best is 1000 teraherz cpu + 240000 gb ram
yeah
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