I have recently played around with mixing compressed signal with dry, haven't come to any conclusion about where and how to use it yet, but seems to be an interesting trick. Anyone does like that sometimes? Please share your experience if you do http://soundcloud.com/aedem
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 12:54
its called parallel compression and is also know as new york compression.
Classical music is often mixed/mastered with this technique......works well on drum buses as well.
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 16:26
what kind of effect does this have on the overall sound signal?
wat's so new york about it?
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Parallel compression can be cool but I don't think Rob Acid is the right person to listen to. (Heard some of his mastering work and he completely destroyed the original mix. Quite horrible really).
Well I heard a before and after example of his work and was not impressed. Compared to the original mix, the mastered version had a lack of sub-bass, the upper highs were gone, the stereo field was much narrower, the highs (hihat region) were very prominent and there was distortion throughout the track.
After hearing that I thought I would give it a go myself. Here is a small section of the track. First a section from the original track, then Rob Acid's mastering then my quick and dirty version. (Note I started from an MP3 of the original. You can hear the MP3 grunginess).
What you can't hear in this section is that in Rob Acid's version the kick-drum is already distorting right at the beginning when it is playing on its own. Not a good start...
I didn't do any stereo field widening or anything like that so the difference in width between Rob Acid's version and mine is him narrowing the original mix!
On 2008-07-02 19:07, UnderTow wrote:
Well I heard a before and after example of his work and was not impressed. Compared to the original mix, the mastered version had a lack of sub-bass, the upper highs were gone, the stereo field was much narrower, the highs (hihat region) were very prominent and there was distortion throughout the track.
After hearing that I thought I would give it a go myself. Here is a small section of the track. First a section from the original track, then Rob Acid's mastering then my quick and dirty version. (Note I started from an MP3 of the original. You can hear the MP3 grunginess).
What you can't hear in this section is that in Rob Acid's version the kick-drum is already distorting right at the beginning when it is playing on its own. Not a good start...
I didn't do any stereo field widening or anything like that so the difference in width between Rob Acid's version and mine is him narrowing the original mix!
UnderTow
Never heard the term parallel compression, i knew it as additive compression, still the same. I use it for drums mostly it gives a nice attitude on the master drum-channel
About the mastering, i personally would have a hard time trusting someone called Bob ACid to begion with its almost like handing your work to someone named "Dick Weed"
And the sound clip i have to say that im a sucker for deep bass, the bob acid version felt very stale and boring, and as you mentioned Undertow the hi hat region sounded very pale in comparison to the original, hey undertow wanna do some mastering for me =D
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Never heard the term parallel compression, i knew it as additive compression, still the same. I use it for drums mostly it gives a nice attitude on the master drum-channel
Yep same thing. It can work really well on some material!
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About the mastering, i personally would have a hard time trusting someone called Bob ACid to begion with its almost like handing your work to someone named "Dick Weed"
LOL.
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And the sound clip i have to say that im a sucker for deep bass, the bob acid version felt very stale and boring, and as you mentioned Undertow the hi hat region sounded very pale in comparison to the original, hey undertow wanna do some mastering for me =D
Sure, send me a PM but would you trust someone called UnderTow?
Never heard the term parallel compression, i knew it as additive compression, still the same. I use it for drums mostly it gives a nice attitude on the master drum-channel
Yep same thing. It can work really well on some material!
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About the mastering, i personally would have a hard time trusting someone called Bob ACid to begion with its almost like handing your work to someone named "Dick Weed"
LOL.
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And the sound clip i have to say that im a sucker for deep bass, the bob acid version felt very stale and boring, and as you mentioned Undertow the hi hat region sounded very pale in comparison to the original, hey undertow wanna do some mastering for me =D
Sure, send me a PM but would you trust someone called UnderTow?
i am totally with you on that one, the mastering sucks.. stereo field, what is that? lol... how can he possibly do that.. ?
like your quick and dirty go a lot better!
strange cause i kinda liked some of his tracks soundwise although not my style..
@vegetal: of course its a strange sounding name: rob acid, i just have to say besides his now questionable mastering skills i totally digged this guys music back in the early 90s when he became famous (well famous in a rather small scene) as rob acid.. his live acts with one 909 and two 303´s +fx are unforgettable and made my early days in electronica scene i tell you.. if you wanna now what i mean liste to "acid warrior - acid bites" and remember being in the year 1993 when listening to it ;-)....the music was a trip back then... hence the name is not at all strange to me...
anyway.. don´t listen to rob acid mastering tips!!
edit: here´s the link to the track
sounds kinda cheap from nowadays point of view.. but again.. ist 15 years ago!
(Heard some of his mastering work and he completely destroyed the original mix. Quite horrible really).
what i know of his own tracks is quite nice soundwise.
