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Composing in Phyrigian mode
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aciduss
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Posted : Jul 12, 2010 21:02:16
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Hey guys... i like this mode because of its flatten second and that nice oriental vibe that makes it good for psy.
The problem is when i try to create compeling chord progressions, that flatten 2nd won't let me form a nice fifth chord, which i usually use for strong progressions.
So i am not that experienced in music theory, i was doing fine with minor scales til now but here comes a new challenge... i do know that modes were before modern composition (progressions) and were used in a different manner.
What can i do to fix this or get successful at progressing while working Phrygian.?
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kabbalisticvillage
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Posted : Jul 12, 2010 22:10
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try a 7th chord.......like if u want e phyrgian try to have behind it a em7 chord or even e7 if u want major style.........it cud be this wont work cuz i forgot all my music theory but i took music theory under a great musician who has 16 grammys..........but that was for guitar not trance....... |
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daark
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Posted : Jul 13, 2010 08:22
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orgytime
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Posted : Jul 13, 2010 10:20
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if i dont find chords that fits at certain parts, i just play 2 notes instead of 3, that fits most of the time xD
cheers
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daark
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Posted : Jul 13, 2010 12:07
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Scolopendra
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Posted : Jul 13, 2010 22:48
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The fifth chord? Do you mean the chord from the 5th note of the phrygian scale?
If you use only notes from the phrygian mode you would get 1-b3-b5. If you were to stick to the phrygian scale exclusively you would get:
1: minor
b2: major
b3: major
4: minor
5: minor b5 <-- this one troubling you?
6: major
7: minor
You could try to play a normal major triad from the 5th, that would give a dominant feeling. You could also try a chord of natural 4ths ex. your root note is C, your 5th is G, so the chord would be G-C-F. Gives an open sound to it.
Don't know if this helps, if not just let me know and i can come up with other possible solutions:) |
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Suloo
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Posted : Jul 14, 2010 02:56
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yea  come up with some solutions m8..
we all want to try ..
cheers
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Scolopendra
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Posted : Jul 14, 2010 10:14
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t'would be easier if people came up with more specific questions:P or else i would have to write a complete introduction to jazz theory:P |
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daark
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Posted : Jul 14, 2010 13:01
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Scolopendra
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Posted : Jul 14, 2010 13:39
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In the scale (Locrian) there is bVI and bVII yes, but in the respective triad these are omitted=) dancing and singing |
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daark
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Posted : Jul 14, 2010 14:35
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Scolopendra
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Posted : Jul 14, 2010 15:00
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Yes i know he said phrygian, and in phrygian, the mode going from the fifth step is... Locrian! That's why you get the minor b5(7) chord from the fifth step:)
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daark
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Posted : Jul 14, 2010 16:46
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On 2010-07-14 15:00, Scolopendra wrote:
from the fifth step is... Locrian!
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oh bah i even forgot how this interval is called thx never realy worked with that one thx.
i use aeolian backdown with phrygian or harmonic minor. all the time and now it just comes automatic i don't really think about those horroble names
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knocz
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Posted : Jul 14, 2010 17:53
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daark
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Posted : Jul 14, 2010 18:01
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