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Posted : Feb 23, 2013 17:46
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On 2013-02-23 17:01, PoM wrote:
circuit breakers - circuit breakers nice too, but maybe a bit too much in the sub.
mate in these tunes do you still hear well the leads on a pa? cause the beat is often huge with the synth line behind, on big bass heavy pa the beat may be too much in front for my taste .
Yes the beat is huge, which is why I use that as reference. I tend to mix my synths loud, cause I like to hear them well, so when I reference my tunes next to Trevor's I have my synths only slightly louder.
I do agree that Trevor's music is very beat heavy (kick, bass, snare, hats) which is a good reference for me, cause one of my weaknesses, is mixing leads and FX, too loud.
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Posted : Feb 24, 2013 02:38
Try and get your track sounding the best it can BEFORE mastering stage.
Your tune should be ads close to finished as possible in the mixing stage, the mastering stage should just be final polish.
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Posted : Feb 24, 2013 03:06
Yeah circuit breakers is what i would like to go into basswise speaking, lovely subassed sound, from my experiments when i get bass like this things come into place more easy and kick gets fatter also
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Posted : Feb 24, 2013 12:26
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On 2013-02-24 02:38, Soundmagus wrote:
Try and get your track sounding the best it can BEFORE mastering stage.
Your tune should be ads close to finished as possible in the mixing stage, the mastering stage should just be final polish.
Mark
+1 on this!
at the moment i havent any knowledge about mastering, i just try to make my tracks sounds good as i can...
i think the mastering stage will be take much time to learn and understand the whole process and i want to give my time to production.
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Posted : Feb 24, 2013 14:09
+1
i 've also lost a lot of time trying to "master" my track. untill i met an artist who give me voxengo elephant and told me that it should be ok with that if i focus on a proper production and mix stages.
so i no more think about mastering.
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Posted : Feb 24, 2013 14:39
I load in a reference track quite often.
The funny thing is when the example track has a certain big crunchy/edgy kick which I'm trying to match, I sometimes exaggerate on my part which then in turn makes the example track not sounding as crunchy as it did before but rather soft all of a sudden.
Too much A/B-ing becomes really confusing because my brain doesn't seem to make an objective image of the sound.
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Posted : Feb 24, 2013 15:26
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Too much A/B-ing becomes really confusing because my brain doesn't seem to make an objective image of the sound.
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Posted : Feb 24, 2013 20:50
Heard the Circuit Breakers album, the leads are slightly louder, only slightly.
Again very well produced. The music in some tunes was nice.
Again very plastic sound, but bold.
Will consider them tracks as well when A/Bing.
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Posted : Feb 24, 2013 22:52
some tunes i dig inside too, would be nice the morning on a beach party.
maybe more dancefloor and goa inspired than burn in noise or dickster project
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Posted : Feb 24, 2013 23:22
You'll never get the level or dynamics of your unmastered track to sound like a mastered release, but as many people have said here, comparing with a commercial track can be very useful, particularly for getting a good frequency balance.
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Posted : Feb 24, 2013 23:58
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The trick is simply to reduce the level of the mastered track by about 6-9dB so that it sounds as quiet as your own production. That way the levels/dynamic difference between your track and the mastered track is minimised.
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Posted : Feb 25, 2013 22:10
Oh well obviously man but what exactly is it so one can know what to ignore when comparing to a release.
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Posted : Feb 25, 2013 23:35
you can ignore dynamic, the mastered tune peaks are limited to get the loudness, your tune will probably breath more
listen to frequency balance like colin mentioned .
when i use reference it s mostly for this, checking frequency balance, levels of sounds in the mix.. but it dont need to be spot on.
we get used to mistake easily after some time.. you know the kind of mixing mistake that jump at you with fresh ears.. it help to try to avoid that.. and when monitoring is not great it help to be sure to have something with potential.
i think with reference it s possible to mix on any speakers that have enough bandwitch... but sure it s not optimal
without level reduction we can instantly say 'hello clipper' to our track 
