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Disciple
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Oct 29, 2010 23:58:59
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Hi guys, I love psy trance. Really I do, and I really want to produce it, the problem is that I have never been very good at making it, and have to almost force myself to conform to the style when producing. I have always wanted make killer psy tunes and have devoted serious time and money to this goal. I have recently become disillusioned with my progress and decided to make a track completely out of my own imagination in no particular style, which has allowed my work rate and enjoyment of the process to increase a hundred fold! I have made a half decent track in a week, from start to finish including all sound creation.
I guess my question is do I carry on trying to produce the psy trance I love slowly, or just forget about boundaries and norms and work from the flow of my imagination instead? Which is allot quicker and more personally expressive?
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Disciple
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Posted : Oct 30, 2010 00:00
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sry double post:( |
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A.Rosengren
Solid Snake
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Posted : Oct 30, 2010 00:34
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It depends what you want, to be truly inspired and flowing of creativity or be cornered in by rules and norms.
Did you try mixing the two approaches and see what comes out?
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Freeflow
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Posted : Oct 30, 2010 00:49
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Just create man!
And even if you make psytrance try and not keep your self limited to rules and classic formulas...
If you really want to copy, just bring your favorite track into the sequencer and start working around it.
I think its most important that you have fun and build confidence....
good luck =)
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Ascension
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Posted : Oct 30, 2010 05:34
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You have something most people wish they could have; pure inspiration and creativity. Just try to put what's in your head onto the computer and let it flow naturally. That's how you really create music. You can't force creativity (as you appear to have experienced).
I'd love to hear what you make, it sounds like you have lots of inspiration and don't let it go to waste on trying to fit your style into a specific "box". It's one thing to follow a style, but quite another to make your own.
 http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Obelizk
Amoeba
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Posted : Oct 30, 2010 09:31
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I'd say keep making your 'own style' music, and keep trying psy at the same time.
There's completely nothing wrong with that, and no matter what style you make, if you keep true to that inspiration and creativity, you'll have your own style no matter what.
I listened to psy a lot before I decided to start actually trying to make it myself -- and having fun and building confidence like freeflow said is right on.
I find it much easier to start a song with a pad or something other than kick and bass, if that helps. You can try converting some of your ideas to psytrance just by adding a psytrance kick and bass pattern.
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daark
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Posted : Oct 30, 2010 11:07
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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : Oct 30, 2010 14:05
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On 2010-10-29 23:58:59, Disciple wrote:
Hi guys, I love psy trance. Really I do, and I really want to produce it, the problem is that I have never been very good at making it, and have to almost force myself to conform to the style when producing. I have always wanted make killer psy tunes and have devoted serious time and money to this goal. I have recently become disillusioned with my progress and decided to make a track completely out of my own imagination in no particular style, which has allowed my work rate and enjoyment of the process to increase a hundred fold! I have made a half decent track in a week, from start to finish including all sound creation.
I guess my question is do I carry on trying to produce the psy trance I love slowly, or just forget about boundaries and norms and work from the flow of my imagination instead? Which is allot quicker and more personally expressive?
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look at it like this. I started buying trance vinyl and going to trance parties in 1994. Then I started making music in 1997 in tracker, it was drum n bass. Then moved on to Cubase in 1999, still drum n bass. Then moved on to Logic in 2001, making breakbeat and techno. Still loved psy-trance, but every time I sat down, I made anything BUT psy-trance, fuck knows why.
Kept making breakbeat and techno tunes, having various releases with labels in the UK, been in compilations with the likes of The Chemical Brothers, Way Out West...etc...
http://www.discogs.com/search?q=nectarios&btn=&type=all
Then started making trance tunes, with out first album getting relesed in 2009 and only with our 3rd unreleased album, I am really pleased and feel like I am finally making the stuff I really want. The album is due to be released early 2011...
So it took me 13-14 years to get here.
Don't force it, just let it come to you.
Peace out.
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Trevon
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Posted : Oct 30, 2010 15:06
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maibe you are being too rational on the creative process...
or too technical, by trying to achieve a certain type of sound that not commes out naturally.
let creativity flow..
you did start a music piece, without being worried about a specific genre.
accept whatever comes out from that...
you'll take your own conclusions. you'll see if your natural music is uplifting, psychdelic, dark, emotional or whatever..
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Disciple
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Oct 30, 2010 16:07
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On 2010-10-30 15:06, Trevon wrote:
maibe you are being too rational on the creative process...
or too technical, by trying to achieve a certain type of sound that not commes out naturally.
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This is just it, I was too worried about the sound being perfect, I have scrapped 99.9% of my sounds because they dont fit in with the the psy genre I wanted to copy. After loosing myself from the conformities I seemed to have found a new direction. Im going experiment in melding the two together, I can hear it already in my head! (I presume that's a good sign). |
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minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Nov 4, 2010 20:05
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Right...
I faced myself with that same question in the past and have to say the best way to go is to work on 2 diferent projects at the same time.
Have an alternative project for your creative songs that are'nt psytrance and work slowly on a parallel psytrance project.
All the best |
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makus
Overdream
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Posted : Nov 13, 2010 00:01
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On 2010-10-29 23:58:59, Disciple wrote:
Hi guys, I love psy trance. Really I do, and I really want to produce it, the problem is that I have never been very good at making it, and have to almost force myself to conform to the style when producing. I have always wanted make killer psy tunes and have devoted serious time and money to this goal. I have recently become disillusioned with my progress and decided to make a track completely out of my own imagination in no particular style, which has allowed my work rate and enjoyment of the process to increase a hundred fold! I have made a half decent track in a week, from start to finish including all sound creation. |
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dude. you answered your question yourself. this is the way to go. ironically, this is the answer to many questions at once. more people go this way more interesting fresh unique sounds we hear.
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I guess my question is do I carry on trying to produce the psy trance I love slowly, or just forget about boundaries and norms and work from the flow of my imagination instead? Which is allot quicker and more personally expressive? |
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just follow your intuition and inspiration. if you want to make psy you will do. however on the way you might find something really interesting 
www.overdreamstudio.com |
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dija
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Posted : Nov 14, 2010 18:41
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