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Chaining VSTi Cubase SX3?
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synthlab
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 06:50
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Is it possible to chain multiple VTSi's together? and if so how do i go about doing it? Been something ive been wondering about for quite some time now.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 16:56
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a212121
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 17:04
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On 2007-10-15 16:56, Colin OOOD wrote:
What do you mean by 'chaining'?
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cubase 4.1
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synthlab
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 18:01
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On 2007-10-15 17:04, a212121 wrote:
cubase 4.1
Just update, its not so expensive
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Ok, i just read somewhere that in January of 2008, Steinberg will release "VST3" free to download off their site. VST3 is supposed to be able to chain together with each other. Anyone know if Cubase SX3 will be able to use VST3? or do you think it will be just a Cubase 4 thing.
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synthlab
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 18:03
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On 2007-10-15 16:56, Colin OOOD wrote:
What do you mean by 'chaining'?
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The ability to make midi sound travel through 2 or more VSTi's, instead of just 1.
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mubali
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 20:04
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why not just copy the midi to the channel of the other vstis? Unless you're playing a synth live, I don't quite understand the usefulness of it.
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synthlab
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 20:09
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On 2007-10-15 20:04, mubali wrote:
why not just copy the midi to the channel of the other vstis? Unless you're playing a synth live, I don't quite understand the usefulness of it.
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as far as i know, cubaseSX3 can only use one VSTi per channel at any given time. What I want to do, is have 2+ VSTi's affecting the same midi at the same exact time.
For Example a midi that is using z3ta+ AND Vanguard at the same time
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MadScientist
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 20:11
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hmm yes, but isnt it still the same as mubali said? 
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synthlab
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 20:13
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On 2007-10-15 20:11, MadScientist wrote:
hmm yes, but isnt it still the same as mubali said?
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Not exactly, that would just overlap the sounds. By placing both VSTi's in sequence with each other, you would get a different effect.
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MadScientist
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 20:13
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hmm can u explain a bit further please?
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synthlab
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 20:30
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Ok think of it like this:
You have sound. Passing it through a synthesizer bends and distorts it into something cool, then this mangled sound exits the synthesizer and you have something new. Now if you take that mangled sound and pass it through a second synthesizer, you can bend/mutilate/distort it even more. Now think of passing it through 5 synthesizers.
It is just something I have been interested in experimenting with.
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MadScientist
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 20:37
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like you can do with any hardware (or soft-) synth with audio input?
seems a bit strange honestly cause this would need the support of the desired vst (wave input as osc)
but I think with some synths its already possible, tough I'm not sure if it works in cubase...generally speaking, its the same as the 2nd synth works just as fx unit, no?
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synthlab
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 21:13
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On 2007-10-15 20:37, MadScientist wrote:
like you can do with any hardware (or soft-) synth with audio input?
seems a bit strange honestly cause this would need the support of the desired vst (wave input as osc)
but I think with some synths its already possible, tough I'm not sure if it works in cubase...generally speaking, its the same as the 2nd synth works just as fx unit, no?
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Yea it would be like routing the output of a hardware synth into a softsynth. And yea youre right about the 2nd synth working as an FX unit.
Anyone know how to do this in Cubase SX3?
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MadScientist
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 21:26
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dont know about cubase since I dont use it, but I think it should be possible with some synths in logic...you can also do this with a virus since years, i.e. routing a sound from a soft- or other hardware synth to the ins of the virus and then messing around with it...
still I dont think that it will be possible with all softsynths, even with this vst3 
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Tomos
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 21:30
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If you want to get 1 midi track to run through 2 VST's use the midi insert "Note 2 CC" |
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