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certain tracks sound better

stoic
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Posted : Mar 29, 2010 00:01:17
I noticed some tracks (escpcially OTT tracks) sound much better in my stereo then others - cleaner basses, clear separation between samples etc...is it my poor sound system or ott just have special mastering that sound much better on any stereo?           Life is too short to eliminate all risks.
TechMonkey
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Posted : Mar 29, 2010 00:19
Probably a combination of both. Even with a rather poor system, you can notice that some tracks will stand out because of quality mastering.

On the other hand, if you have a very nice audio system, I find that the limitations of poor mastering really jump out at you. Just as much or even more than those songs that have been skillfully mastered.
andrew interchill
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Posted : Mar 29, 2010 01:06
There's also the quality of the pre-master to take into consideration - i.e. the final mix that the artist does where everything is fine tuned. Some producers are simply far more highly skilled than others in this regard. The better your ingredients the better the final result.

There's been a bunch of confusing chat about mastering on this board...

some people suggesting the best producers don't need mastering...

others, like me, being surprised that an album would be released without mastering

another post with a long list of mastering professionals

Mau saying that Spectralite sounds lovely without mastering [which indeed it does] and in the same post that he's mastering greg's album.

Mau - why master it at all ? and why do it yourself instead of going to a mastering studio ? And what guidelines would you suggest for those who would try and follow your example ?

Would any producers on this forum prefer to master their own albums than supervise a session with a mastering studio -bearing in mind that the mastering engineer will revisit and retweak any songs that upon further listening you feel would need it ?

It would be great to hear some points of view on this both from producers, label people and mastering engineers.
andrew interchill
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Posted : Mar 29, 2010 02:28
many questions answered in this topic

http://forum.isratrance.com/ambient-mastering-whom-would-you-choose-to-do-it/

thanks for the input - all very interesting
xuam
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Posted : Mar 29, 2010 03:19
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On 2010-03-29 01:06, andrew interchill wrote:
There's also the quality of the pre-master to take into consideration - i.e. the final mix that the artist does where everything is fine tuned. Some producers are simply far more highly skilled than others in this regard. The better your ingredients the better the final result.

There's been a bunch of confusing chat about mastering on this board...

some people suggesting the best producers don't need mastering...

others, like me, being surprised that an album would be released without mastering

another post with a long list of mastering professionals

Mau saying that Spectralite sounds lovely without mastering [which indeed it does] and in the same post that he's mastering greg's album.

Mau - why master it at all ? and why do it yourself instead of going to a mastering studio ? And what guidelines would you suggest for those who would try and follow your example ?

Would any producers on this forum prefer to master their own albums than supervise a session with a mastering studio -bearing in mind that the mastering engineer will revisit and retweak any songs that upon further listening you feel would need it ?

It would be great to hear some points of view on this both from producers, label people and mastering engineers.



andrew...i start to believe that you are hopeless.
or you can't read or you can't listen.
or you have on some sort of suicide mission.
eitherway...you are welcome !
andrew interchill
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Posted : Mar 29, 2010 04:30
understood that you prefer not to answer the questions.

Any input for the original poster ?






(val)Liam


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Posted : Mar 29, 2010 09:01
it also pays to have a fresh pair of ears on a track... and above the formal mastering process, the people doing the mastering can pick up any errors that might be on there or any problems with the initial mix that might need work... and since the ears of the musician/producer are so biased to the sound of the track, its important to have that objective listen...
DjSchofield
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Posted : Mar 29, 2010 23:13


I'm not a producer or anything, but I'd guess that often an artist would be too familiar with their own work to be able to bring their own fresh ears to bear on the mastering process.

It'd be like trying to proof read a document you have written yourself? You would hear/read what you believe that you recorded/wrote?
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