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Cerebral Factory - Karash vs Electrypnose (Kabrathor Recs)

leprechnau


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Posted : Jul 4, 2007 18:27
i am a kind of agree with edilol, this cd is good but not night psychedelik muusic, not for the night at all but for a good morning style for sure, i cannot say if it's commercial or no, just not night music but i feel well a "acidbubblegum" in the morning and "dragon slayer" just before the sunrise!
u made good album but not for the night!!!

good luck los kabra and stay true please!
keep the underground true!

Booom
black_cat


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Posts :  101
Posted : Jul 4, 2007 18:52
leprechnau > what is for night and what for morning/day ?

it`s about personal preference ...

personally i don`t like parties where dj plays projects like kindzadza in the morning or during the day ... my preference (i like it during the night though)

as i see, this release is not in the usuall kabrathor style, hence some of the complains, but hey it`s good nontheless.
Karash
Karash

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Posted : Jul 4, 2007 18:55
Yes I am agree with you that's is not night style for sure. But we didn't want to make night style in this one. We just tried to have a couple of different traxs and not all night style. It was a test and experiments in the choice of traxs. Beceause we were bored, that when u listened an album, it's always straight deep bassline and "DARK".
But I understand edilol in his point of view and the fact that's u can be disappointed when u are waiting something which follow the same spirit as the other release, and finally u hav something which is not corresponding to your attempt. But to say, it's already seen and commercial there are still some steps to get down and also u can find "DARK" music which can be considered as commercial too, beceause there is the public target. I really think that the 1st and 2nd traxs are unusual, even the 4th is really interesting, I don't like all in this traxs, but there are experiments in the bass, and true also for the 6th traxs. So difficult to talk about colours and taste. No one get reason, just is not pure night style, more the beginning or the sunrise .

But for sure the next VA from Kabra will follow the same artistic line as the 2 first one. So don't worry           Nia KOR
le barde
Electrypnose

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Posts :  348
Posted : Jul 4, 2007 22:26
well,
me i like to eat sweet breakfast rather than salty, and i like white wine with cheese.

while i-m playing cheesy melodic stuffs, some friends annoy me and say it-s gay music while some others kick their foot on the ground...
Dejan tells me since long time i-ll release a track and play with astrix
and we are good friends.. no worries about what we play.
and this is the main idea about kabrathor... release the music of good friends, more that music wise... i don-t think this spirit has been forgotten with this release...
then for the nexts, it will be the turn of the other kabrathor brothers...

well, enjoy yourself and put you favourite cd at any hour of the day/night you wish.. and hope you-ll find someone to offer the cd you don-t like.

and yeah... my dream is to become rich, be surounded by chicks in a swimming pool.. that-s what i-m thinking about each time i open cubase.

boom

Karash
Karash

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Posted : Jul 4, 2007 22:35
And everything is said ^_^           Nia KOR
"Jigsaw"


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Posted : Jul 4, 2007 22:42
hello everyone,

i read this post and feel need to say something, heheheh, kabrathor is before all a label made by artist not to win money but to can release all the musik that we want and be free to do all that we like do!
i understand some point of view but in teh two first va we have proof that kabrathor isnot close to one style but different style from different artist, kabrathor guys are free from all formats and we do only taht we have on the heart, some people will like the two first one and not this album but some other will love this one and not the two first one, so it's a full good circle for everyone.
there is no commercial way in kabrathor just a lot of free mind who support each other and try to offer somethings different than the format compil of some label and some big name!

We are underground in our way tolife and to think and we don't give our ass to money, this cd is made with the heart and we must respect each artist it's not so easy to try to offer something different!
That's my point of view, i don't want to attack anyone, i respect all pint of view but kabrathor is before all our freedom!!!!

respect to vince and karash, and all kabrathor team!!!

Mega psy boooom

Hishiryo in da space
Karash
Karash

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Posted : Jul 4, 2007 23:02
Thanks to Jigsaw and Vince...you have totally resume the spirit of this label made by friends who are dedicated to this music. And we are not doing something in order to make money, turn commercial and to be receive in a white huge limousine (laugh ). We just had lot of fun when we made those tracks and it's the main important things. After some people will like it or not, no matter. Taste and colours.
If we really want to make something commercial, we won't do this music, maybe a house project with the aim to play at Ibiza one day and in the same time to sell my soul to the devil. But it's not the case.

Boom ^_^           Nia KOR
Morus


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Posts :  315
Posted : Jul 5, 2007 12:59
Personally, i like most of Le Barde's music, wether dark music or morning or even ambient stuff he's been making. About Karash, this is the first time I hear his tunes and I found myself surprised as well as really interested about it, pretty nice music.

This cd for me is something not to be ignored, the first track is something really different from the 136bpm stuff you might find around, for sure they spent a bunch of time and creativity while making this cd. The problem, for me, is that type of "endless need" that almost everyone has of labeling, dividing, applying descriptions and genres/sub-genres in every single track.

Words like dark, morning, commercial, underground, cheesy, straight, scary, fluffy, deep, funky, and many other words that had been overused lately to describe the feeling of the music, are just adjectives, and adjectives are very subjective and relative, what is ugly for me can be beautiful for someone else, my concept of dark is for sure different of someone else's own concept.

Many people try to fit the music under a style, and that kind of thing ends up "blocking" the music inside your head, if you just try to listen to it without pre-attaching it to any kind of style, you can probably find it completely different from what you found the first time.

Psyche = psy = something that touches your SOUL. If a tune touches your soul, then it's psychedelic. It's like i always say: there has been quite some time that I admit to myself and to anyone that there are only two kinds of music: GOOD and BAD.

That's it!
Hope to hear more good music from Kabrathor guys! Congratz Karash and Vins and cheers from Brazil!
all the best!

ps.: i played some tracks of this cd in many circumstances, under great, strong and well equalized soundsystems, and i found them a bit weak when the point is "low frequencies", i felt that really clearly when mixing those tracks to other ones, from other cds, mastered by others. Maybe the master here was mainly focused in the mid-freqs and hi-freqs, has anyone felt that too or it was just my imagination?          www.myspace.com/djmorus
aXis
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Jul 5, 2007 13:05
RESPECT!!!! KARASH u know i love ur work

Where is Our Track ?


Lots of love

Adi.
BAPHOMET_ENGINE
Baphomet Engine

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Posted : Jul 5, 2007 16:27
Well I thinked 3 times before post it here, cuase I dont want to be another Kabrathor guy saying good things about our releases...


It´s a different Kabrathor Release, with concepts behind it... not to fits on words.

Dark,Morning,FullOn,Freak,Comercial,Underground...
...are all words, don´t be stucked and locked to close your mind behind these words.

Kabrathor artists are free to produce their music style and release it... this is the underground spirit.

Big Shanti Peace Alien Boom

Louis
Baphomet Engine
Kabrathor Records
le barde
Electrypnose

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Posts :  348
Posted : Jul 5, 2007 23:12
Quote:
Words like dark, morning, commercial, underground, cheesy, straight, scary, fluffy, deep, funky, and many other words that had been overused lately to describe the feeling of the music, are just adjectives, and adjectives are very subjective and relative, what is ugly for me can be beautiful for someone else, my concept of dark is for sure different of someone else's own concept.

Many people try to fit the music under a style, and that kind of thing ends up "blocking" the music inside your head, if you just try to listen to it without pre-attaching it to any kind of style, you can probably find it completely different from what you found the first time.



this could be copied and pasted in many threads on this forum... well said Morus...
a well wise speach ...

about the mastering thing, that there is maybe a lack of bass ... hmm, i would say for my defence that i take mostly reference on super popular fullon music like alien project or eskimo ... which i find just top clear produced and finalized.
then, yeah... i think with this the low frequencies are not pushed up as much as in some ¨night project¨...
im interested if there are some other people who feel the same.. might help me to correct this in the future.
i also know some djs who played this release on some big PA, but didn-t get such feedback till now.

boom

aXis
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Jul 6, 2007 16:38
nope , I played this Cd ... no problems here . Well it is not the heavy night shit ... but this sure is good MUSIC.

My 2 cents
Morus


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Posted : Jul 6, 2007 17:02
Well, just before anyone thinks shit about the mastering on this cd, i must explain clearer: the quality is very good. The difference i felt in the lowfreqs in relation to other releases is pretty smooth, not the big contrast that i maybe might have seem to mean in my last post, it's nothing that makes the release not able to be played for sure. Also, if Vins wasn't good on mastering work, he wouldn't have been chosen to master some releases around, like he's been doing lately. For sure Eskimo, Alien Project or Space Cat and also 3D Vision artists have a very nice mastering work. Maybe just a bit of attention in the lowfreqs, giving them a little more heavyness, would help.           www.myspace.com/djmorus
Rah
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Posted : Jul 15, 2007 20:43
I honestly don't understand what's all the bitchin about?

the mastering sounds fine on my monitors and the lows are allowing the highs to breath in a proper balance. Maybe they are not crushing my stomach, but I’m not a big fan of that...

As for the music, Vins has been experimenting on a number of spectrums for a while and it's no surprise where he is heading as a multi-faceted artist. My definition of commercial music is something you buy and you can imagine how's it going to sound without even breaking the wrapper. Cerebral Factory brought it a few interesting surprises and it was worth the trip. I mean for fuck's sake just go and listen to his first album before writing crap about stylistic differences. Open your mind a bit and let the music flow, if it suits your taste then that's cool, if not, then so be it; but waiting for labels and artists to be cornered in a single creative space is what leads to the commercialization of music in the first place! the stress you place on artists they have to play a certain way, or have certain bass line destroys the artistic flow… and that's not what psychedelic music is about.

bottom line, I dug it, Karash has a few gems unfolding and I’ll be waiting to hear what comes up next from the dragon slayer himself.... cheers.
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Mad Purple State
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Posted : Jul 18, 2007 14:15
Good Music Karash... I love the sound...n Keep up the style. Just expected a bit more twisted... Like just a little more... and more Cerebral Factory tracks than solo tracks.


But well done...
Cheers
Rix...           No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness...
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