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krisamadhi
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 06:35
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 09:17
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On 2004-10-12 06:35, krisamadhi wrote:
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cdj - 1000's have 100% pitch, .002 increments and loop!
cdj - 100's don't.
we can still play on 100's, but its more fun for both of us on four cdj - 1000's
sorry on the off topic!
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Sorry to fallow this OT, but I'd really like to see DJs back up off the damn effects of the 100/1000s Yes, a well placed flange (or "Jet" as it's labeled on the 100s) can do wonders for a dancefloor, but sooo many DJs whore out that damn button. |
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 11:16
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On 2004-10-12 06:35, krisamadhi wrote:
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cdj - 1000's have 100% pitch, .002 increments and loop!
cdj - 100's don't.
we can still play on 100's, but its more fun for both of us on four cdj - 1000's
sorry on the off topic!
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CDJ100s Rock any day compared to the 1000s
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krisamadhi
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 17:13
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Sorry to fallow this OT, but I'd really like to see DJs back up off the damn effects of the 100/1000s Yes, a well placed flange (or "Jet" as it's labeled on the 100s) can do wonders for a dancefloor, but sooo many DJs whore out that damn button.
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i totally agree the effects have to go!!!
and how 100's are better than 1000's ill never know.
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mubali
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 17:28
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Because a cdj1000 costs a little over twice as much as a cdj100. For me the 100's pitch has always been fine for me. I have played on 1000s as well, but I feel that they have too many features to worry about. I just wanna cue my cd, set my pitch and play....
Most promoters here in Cali don't own 1000's (The only crew in Norcal that I know has a set is Thump.) because they are that expensive. Also, there are a lot of outdoor events that take place here, and I wouldn't feel comfortable bringing my really expensive cd players to some renegade outdoor where dust is flying all over the place. Maybe we're just cheap, but at least we don't have american dj cd players...
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Basilisk
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 17:43
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That extra bit of pitch resolution on the 1000s really makes a difference. 100s are fine for music at 145 BPM but playing prog and doing long mixes is a real pain with the 100s. Effects should be used sparingly. I dabble with the WAH button while in the mix to give some transitions a more sublime character, and seldom do more. Modern psy has enough tweaky effects already...
For the illicit outdoor party circuit the 100s can't be beat however... I've played on decks with twisted knobs that were melted in the sun and they still work OK 
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krisamadhi
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 17:49
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Lauryn
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 17:58
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I would rather play on the 100s any day...
-much more portable
-have a smaller jog wheel
-have the wah button, which is good if used sparingly
-you can more accurately search through a track
BUT...
the 1000s are great for playing progressive.
However, as long as i've got decent monitors, I'm happy playing on whatever as long as it works.
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mubali
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 18:30
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I do have to admit that I do like CMX 3000's. I feel that they can make a mix tighter, especially with the pitch bend button on it. But I almost feel like it's almost too easy to make a 4+ minute mix on them. I come from an old vinyl perspective where eventually if you aren't paying attention you can lose your mix. I agree it is a pain in the butt to have to constantly adjust your pitch, but I also feel that I am doing more in the mix and feel alot busier.
Personally though... 100's are fine for me, but I usually play at faster bpms than typical progressive speed. I have noticed the few times I have played at under 140bpm, that it's a little more difficult to get it locked in, but once again, I started with vinyl, and that's really difficult to get it locked in to begin with. I understand and respect anyone's preferences, but most of us here in the SF area don't even own a set of 1000's.
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bluespectralmonkey
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 19:57
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the 1000's have looping, more accurate search and cue in vinyl mode, plus the visual readout to let you know where the break is and how long etc.
the 100's make that annoying cue stutter sound, i cant stand it.
the jog wheel on the 100s feels muddy to me, its like a bendy pencil trying to draw a straight line.
its nearly impossible to ride out a long mix on the 100s without constant babysitting. which makes mixing less FUN and thats the whole point of the matter.
the pitch range is only 10% on the 100's which makes it difficult to get too tweaky or make big jumps while playing ambient/downtempo. or god forbid playing trance at less than 130bpm!
i guess with cd decks there is no industry standard. like with turntables, everyone expects technics 1200s.
if pioneer 100s are the industry standard then there is something wrong!
the lack of scientific accuracy on the 100s just makes me cringe.
they feel like a toy, whereas the 1000s feel like an instrument.
its not that i feel i MUST play on 1000s its just that i cant give my best performance if i am not comfortable with the equipment.
i guess that its the great leveller of dj ego to play on equipment that does not let you do tricks, be super accurate, or have control.
blahblah blahhhh
imho
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 20:02
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I like CDJ-800s 'cause they're real similar to the 1000s (except for the scratching feature), but smaller and a lot less expensive.
CDJ-3000s are nice, too.
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djfanboy
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 20:19
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I'm just going to be the black sheep of the family and say that my Numark Axis-8 players have never given me trouble, I believe the jog wheels give more control over the tracks, the have a bank of effects to put the CDJ-100s to shame (I agree they should be used sparingly, but sometimes an echo effect helps!) and they're competitively priced.
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 20:32
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ANYTHING BUT PIONEER?!?!?!
Actually no, those Axis' (I've played on both 8s and 2s) are not bad. The 2s are a little wierd getting used to, but after like 3 mixes you get it...
I personally roll with the cmx 3000s and I love them. yeah they have no effects, that just means you have to mix better
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paradigm
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 21:59
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Numarks !!!. I have to come over to the Psyentists HQ and try those some time.
Personally i prefer 100s. The key point being if they are good 100s and calibrated right. If one of them is f'd ..then so are you. On a good pair of 100s i can get a longer cleaner mix with less tinkering than i can on a pair of CMX's. If 100s are locked on there seems to be very little drift, however on a pair (singular) 3000 after 2 minutes i need to be readjusting things. However one always needs to take the condition of the equipment into consideration.
However i do agree that on 100s if your are trying to match two tracks with different recorded BPMs by about 7 or more it gets really challenging. |
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Maska
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 23:36
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as far as the question, I prefer the 1000's over the 100's...But my favorite is the cmx 3000
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