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electrojoseph82
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Posted : Feb 23, 2008 19:11
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virava
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Posted : Feb 23, 2008 19:31
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On 2008-02-23 18:45, AbsolutZero (MoonSun Rec.) wrote:
oh my god!!
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DETOX
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Posted : Feb 23, 2008 21:36
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On 2008-02-23 19:11, electrojoseph82 wrote:
Im not used to insult people , but in this occasion i enjoy it.
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Enjoy it while you can then while hiding behind your computer.
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kapsis
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Posted : Feb 24, 2008 13:57
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what where the technical reasons (that wheren't able to be fixed)?? inform us if you can plz |
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Prison_break
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Posted : Feb 24, 2008 14:35
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This is the tragic situation and many people are going away from the scene...
LET US DANCE INTO THE NEXT DIMENSION AND IMMORTALITY |
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Giannis
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Posted : Feb 24, 2008 15:56
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i was wondering if anyone of you and i mean the team that is trying to organize the party at polytehniupoli is also a student of politehniupoli?
and who is asking a permission to do a party there and with what attribute? |
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uforica025
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Posted : Feb 24, 2008 18:39
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On 2008-02-24 15:56, Giannis wrote:
i was wondering if anyone of you and i mean the team that is trying to organize the party at polytehniupoli is also a student of politehniupoli?
and who is asking a permission to do a party there and with what attribute?
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why all this noise about permissions?
is ok INHO, to do parties anyone he like to do it, if he respect the place and not destroy it...
I'm jealous when i see in other countries making parties on parks, squares etc, in the middle of the day, and no one disturb them...
but unfortunately, we live in a country that anyone needs permission even for farting... 
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DETOX
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Posted : Feb 24, 2008 20:48
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Uforica in those other countries the organisers get a permission to hold all those parties that you are talking about.
Like the Love Parade in Germany,the Queens Day in Holland,the free concerts in Manhattan's Central Park and many many more.
In Greece on the other hand everyone does whatever he likes with no permission and thats why we have all these problems with parties and festivals in places with no permission by any authority.
You said that everyone should be able to host a party anywhere as long as he respects and doesnt destroy the place,well things arent so simple,one of the aspects of organising a free party in a place like a university is to be able to protect the place if something goes wrong.For example if some people decide to burn the place or steal some equipment then the organisers are obliged to prevent them from doing so,if some people attend the party in order to beat other people and steal their belongings then again the organisers are responsible to prevent such situations,i dont think that many organisers can achieve that while making a free party in the university area.As about respecting the place well in order to respect a place like a university i guess that you should have been a student at a university during your life in order to know the importance of it.Interesting question by Giannis to see how many of those organisers ever been a university student during their life. Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!! |
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uforica025
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Posted : Feb 24, 2008 23:09
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On 2008-02-24 20:48, DETOX wrote:
Uforica in those other countries the organisers get a permission to hold all those parties that you are talking about.
Like the Love Parade in Germany,the Queens Day in Holland,the free concerts in Manhattan's Central Park and many many more.
In Greece on the other hand everyone does whatever he likes with no permission and thats why we have all these problems with parties and festivals in places with no permission by any authority.
You said that everyone should be able to host a party anywhere as long as he respects and doesnt destroy the place,well things arent so simple,one of the aspects of organising a free party in a place like a university is to be able to protect the place if something goes wrong.For example if some people decide to burn the place or steal some equipment then the organisers are obliged to prevent them from doing so,if some people attend the party in order to beat other people and steal their belongings then again the organisers are responsible to prevent such situations,i dont think that many organisers can achieve that while making a free party in the university area.As about respecting the place well in order to respect a place like a university i guess that you should have been a student at a university during your life in order to know the importance of it.Interesting question by Giannis to see how many of those organisers ever been a university student during their life.
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Dear Mike, i just said that, about respect and protection of the place.
In my opinion, on other European countries, they take the permission they like for doing an event, 1000 times more simple than here.
and i don't mean only for huge parties like
Love Parade and the rest, maybe is a little more complicate about those,
cause there are massive crowd and needs lot of guaranties (security, doctors, fire departments etc),
but even in small topic events thing are much more simple.
they just ask, and nobody refuses.
U can walk in many towns in Europe, not only the west "civilized" ones, but even in some of the Balkan's towns,
and u can see small bands playing their music, or small topic events with local dj's in the neighbor streets have a little crowd dancing, having fun and nobody goes to arrested them or disturbing.
Unfortunately here, things are opposite:
If u try something like that, 100% u will pass the rest of couple of days on the local
police station, not to mention the danger of jail (except off course...hehe...if u have a lot of money to ...pay them all).
Even if u like to do something more organized, and u had a plan with all the details etc, u must lick lot of asses to take at last the f@@king permission, never can't be sure that all is ok, as maybe on the last moment authorities can cancel the permission, even if u till that moment u had spend a big amount of money for preparation.
Examples? many, first one that came to my mind is the last Butterfly...
Maybe, for all those reasons ppl here, don't like to go even try to take a permission.
They can't be sure for this anyway, so why they must spend time and lot of energy to involve in that kind of situation for no reason...
Last, for me is good to be happen free events,
we don't do something wrong, we play and listen the music we like,
what is the reason not to have a free party in the center of Athens for example
if it's ok having a free concert there with various dog-singers (skylades) ????
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DETOX
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Posted : Feb 25, 2008 00:04
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Uforica mate in other countries just like here its very very difficult to obtain a permission to host a festival in either a private or public space,i happen to know very well the organisers of Sonica and Glade Festival and i know what difficulties they had with their permissions in Italy and England.I also know all the problems that took place last year in Spain on two occasions where the local authorities didnt grand a permission to two different organisers for hosting two different events.Same with Portugal and Israel on two other events.
Everybody around the world is facing the same problems when trying to gain a permission to organise an open air event and especially a trance open air event.
Concerning the Balkans things are probably easier to gain a permission to host an event (since on poor countries money are very powerful....) but i will point out to you what happened in the last edition of No Mans Land festival where the local church managed to cancel a festival on the very last moment.
As you can see things are not quiet exactly like you think they are and in no country any organiser organises any event in public places without any complicated paperwork.Even in Brazil and Mexico where things were tottally free till some time ago in our days the authorities are putting a lot of pressure on the organisers for licenses.
Concerning the last Butterfly Festival,well without me knowing from the inside but judging from the posts of the organisers and the links posted here from various local newspapers i reached the conclusion that the festival was in no way well organised on a legal basis and i seriously doubt that the organisers ever had a written permission for their festival,all they had was just a verbal ok from someone from the municipality council (dimotiko simvoulio) and they 100% relied on that which was very very unprofessional if you ask me and thats why all these problems came up in the days of the festival.Sorry but the guys were not well organised like you probably think,quiet the opposite i guess so Butterfly Festival is not a good example of a well planned event that went wrong in the end because of the strict authorities,the blame goes to the organisers for not having a written permission and not to the authorities who seemed to know nothing about this festival.Even the mayor of the place didnt have a clue of what was going there if i remember correctly.
Free events are very good indeed and very welcome when they are organised from the right people who can organise such an event and if these events have a certain purpose (apart having fun) and a positive message to spread then thats even better.
Concerning the center of Athens sorry but its not very wise to have a free trance party there in the middle of the city because unfortunately the crowd of trance parties is not so predictable like mpouzoukia or mainstream music parties.I mean who is willing to sign all the legal papers and take the responsibility for such an event?Certainly not me and i doubt that there is such a person who is willing to put his face in front and organise such a party.
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