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YANTRA
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Posted : Feb 12, 2005 20:23
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Hey mates!Its a big one 
Fisrt of all i want to do some correction, i mentioned before in another topic that my processor is a pentium 4, but i made a mistake, its atlon. Ok, here we go: My system is a Atlon 2.4ghz but as far as i know the real clock is 1.99ghz, and its old model -> 533, if u know what i mean. My motherboard is a shit one, my hd i dont know the specification, but i got it like 3 years ago and it has 40gb. I hv 1gb of RAM ddr , they are old too. My video is G force II and my soundcar is soundblaster .
Well, I was having too much trouble with cpu proceessing so i took my computer to this specialist! Than he made some changes like deleting stuff to create space in my HD and changing some stuff that would make my HD work like RAM, something like this and some other changes.. Anyway, the audio processing problem wasnt resolved but it got much better, when i loaded some tracks in cubase and also in flstudio the performance was very superior than before!
So, the guy told me that a good solution for me would be buy a motherboard MD ASUS A7N8X-X or the same asus tipe but the deluxe version. Also, i should buy a G force 4 mx128mb, cause my Gforce 2 is not compatible with the motherboard.. and with this g force 4 the performance would be better cause cubase has too much graffics. And to finish he told me to buy a HD 40gb seagate 7200 rpm to use, its new technology , better performance etc.. and keep my samples/vsts/programs/everything on the old one!
Do you guys thing its a great solution? Will i get hid of the cpu problems? Is this motherboard good, so i can after improove my soundcar to a EMU1212 soundcar for example? If not, wich motherboard should i go for, compatible with what i hv, since i dont want to spend money with new memories or with a new processor?! Is there a big difference between the deluxe and the normal one? (asus a7n 8x-x)
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diskonekt
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Posted : Feb 12, 2005 21:19
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Hello man.First of all i find it higly unlikely that your Gforce 2 isn't compatible with ASUS A7n8X....that's pure bullshit.The thing is that if you buy a pro soundcard too,then you may encounter problems...but the same happens if you use a Gforce 4 mx /i know cause i was using one with my A7n8x mainboard and i had problems till i changed it...so in that case i suggest go for a better vga card.
The difference between the simple and the deluxe version of A7n8x is that the deluxe comes with Serial Ata controllers and a wi fi slot in case you want to set up a wireless lan (the card is optional though).
Generally it's a nice mainboard and you'll find it at a great price.
As for the cpu overload i suggest trying new drivers on your soundblaster (asio4all driver or the cracked emu 10k drivers) and if that doesn't work buy the 1212 wihich is a nice card at a great price i hear...
Hope i've been of any help and not messed you up more 
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YANTRA
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Posted : Feb 12, 2005 21:26
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Hey i readed some posts saying a7n8x is not a good motherboard for music production! Does anyone can tell me why? What about the abit nf7-s rev 2.0 or the sa7 or any other one, is abit a better choice?
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YANTRA
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Posted : Feb 12, 2005 21:28
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Hey thanks age of panic! Yeah, i am using asio kx driver! |
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EYB
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Posted : Feb 12, 2005 21:46
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Yeah i had problems with a asus board, now i have a gigabyte board and this one rocks
My asus was a so called 'monday-product', i used it two weeks then it doesn't worked anymore. And the two weeks it made lot of problems.
So i will never buy asus again. But there are lot of people that love asus mobos.
In another thread someone gave the a good tip (i think it was Spindrift) to ask the manufactor of ur sequencer what hardware is best for it. Maybe u do this.
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Spindrift
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Posted : Feb 13, 2005 00:16
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Since preformance is less of an issue nowadays you can really get a nice system with most mobo's, but the mobo is what everything communicates thru, and a good stable mobo is vital if you want as good and stable system as possible.
The main thing is the chipset though.
VIA used to be very bad, but have become better slowly, but still I would say that you should stick with one that has an nForce chip.
But I think in your case it's more about tweaking the system properly and maybe get a new soundcard instead.
What was the URL to that music tweak site again???
I'm sure someone knows it by heart.
I have great experiences with ASUS boards.
I have the A7N8X deluxe and it has given me no problems and it really works great.
I know some audio compter freaks who buy new computers every year and always have 5-6 computers, and they swear by ASUS as well.
Like EYB said, I checked with creamware who make the soundcard I use what mobo, gfx and RAM they use when testing the card with Logic.
If you soundcard manufacturer use the same components for their tests you can feel quite assured you don't get any nasty surprises.
Kindof like buying a mac, but without throwing a lot of cash in the sea
About the GFX, i think any 128MB card can run cubase without problem. Of course a PCI one is a very bad idea though.
2D gfx do not use anything near 128Mb and the developments of GFX cards is not doing much to 2D performance.
Creamware recommended the Matrox Dual-head cards which they use for testing.
They are 32Mb or 64MB , but only optimised for 2D and very limited 3D performance.
I know people who use them and they should be great if you not planning to play games.
I do want some 3D as well, so I have a chep Radeon card, 9200. I also built systems based on newer 64 bit nForce ASUS boards with Radeon 9600 GFX which works great as well.
I had faulty mobos before as well, three times now, it's just something that happens sometimes. It's a lot of sensitive circuitry and solder joints, and they don't seem to be able to take the time to test the properly.
Normally you get a replacement without any problem.
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YANTRA
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Posted : Feb 13, 2005 12:58
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Yeah i hv the site, it is www.musicxp.net!
I looked for the Gigabyte motherboard but i couldnt find it here in my town 
I think i will buy the asus a7n8x and look for another option for my videocard..
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Rishi
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Posted : Feb 13, 2005 13:55
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Hello Yantra , I would also advice you for Gigabyte muthaboard
( 8knxp rev 2) its rocking .
I tried 2 motherboards with via chipset , BWaaaadr -- On both machines i had and HAVE , clipping in the sound ( something with pci slot latency ) .. well some experts told me that external soundcards and Via wasnt the best combination .
The last 3 years ive been working with cubase .. and for this period . i have had the same 32 mb graphics card in the machine ( worth mentioning im NEVER playing games , so if u need for both .. consider the 128 megs ... )
Also one other important thing .. is Harddisks ..
ppl tend to think Cpu power and Ram is everything ..
Cpu power is important yes , Ram 512 mb fast ones will do the trick , try pushing ctrl alt del , and check ur Ram usage , even when i run Big projects ... i never use more than ½ of the ram ...
With A scsci Harddisk and 15000 rpm , u will experience one of the biggest speed incresements i would guess . more than double the speed that we are used to ..( if u have 7200 rpm ) ..and thats got a point to say .
Well thats just my 2 cents ...
P.s For ultimate pc .. u can check out the xeon motherboards .. ( this is my next project
They take 2 physical Cpu's , and both Cpu's can be hyperthreaded .... this and scsi and fast ram ..and G5 is blasted back ....
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YANTRA
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Posted : Feb 14, 2005 23:37
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Hey Rishi thanks a lot!
So, considering that i NEVER play games, i just need good performance, meaning, lots of vsts and NO CLIPPING (hehe this would be so perfect ) do I really need to change my videocard? I have a G FORCE 2. Than i could spend the money with this powerfull hd or someother thing to keep the performance killer. Thank u again guys, just help me with more this one, tomorrow is da day . boom |
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Kitnam
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Posted : Feb 15, 2005 03:53
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dude never go to this "specialist" again, was it a dealer? he only wants to make you buying unnecessary things and he has no idea about music-systems. the geforce story is a fairy tale you dont need 3d-chips for a 2d rendered software.(what a fairy tale) you also dont need a new HD, if the hd you have now works, it works. a new hd would be not as noisy as an old one and more speed (but no realtime-soundrendering speed), could be an advantage for makin music, but this are peanuts you do for a systemperfection at last.
what u need is:
- good CPU (>3000 Ghz) ( i made good exp. with p4 other ones use amd with very good experiences too)
- good RAM (what u have is enough)
- good soundcard (i made good exp. with the cheap and stable delta 44
- good audio-monitors (studiophile or evolv is good for low budget but high-quality)
and do not change ur videocard.. absolutly mad idea |
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