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tim@motion
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Posted : Jun 26, 2006 01:57
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listen petro cause you got the whole thing wrong man. I never ever care what others do. I told you on the phone : it is a free market and if you can book symphonix do it. Right? i told you that i will try with all my force to not allow it right? so far so good. Now you come and tell me that i booked arara and i do the same thing with neverland etc etc ok? if neverland wanted to block this booking then it is still fine with me. I will try to keep the booking and the story goes on and on and on. Thats how it works man! it is soooo fucking simple and legal as all other similar activities on a free market  nothing more or less
I hope that you can understand what i am talking about. It is a matter of target, abilities, and plans. You say that you do this for fun and that's great. I say that i do it for fun and living too. I am very sorry that you didn't managed to get your self together all these years with what you love and put it all together organising your life, but man this is not my fault
you said that i did the same with the other "promoters". Ofcourse i did and i will do it again and again no hard feelings no purpose NOTHING at all. It is what i do man! you find it so bad that a raver turned his passion in to a real way of living?
You are saying that emok and peter didjital speaking the worst about my organisation. Well we will have a reply about this very soon in this topic from an official source
you say that you have clear intentions and you do this for fun? ok then here is your answer since you ask for it. wich organising team arranged two parties this year in the universities? i think it was camoflash eh? why these parties were organised the exact date when free frequency had announced events on these two dates? You see my inocent "goa head" ? THIS IS HOW YOU DESTROY A PARTY. Not by
trying to keep your planed djs as scheduled.(thats what i do btw)
Finding a free place as a university and launching events to fuck up free frequency is your ways for having fun??? man you have very kinky ways to have fun. Congratulations
Petraki cut the crap of your "inocent intentions" and bulshit and pass this childish nonsense to someone else. The story of plur won't fool anyone here. Once more i am telling you .Get your self together and mostly get a life it's been too long since 97 don't you think its time to get one? 
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Peter Zen
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Posted : Jun 26, 2006 04:00
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On 2006-06-26 01:57, tim@motion wrote:
listen petro cause you got the whole thing wrong man. I never ever care what others do. I told you on the phone : it is a free market and if you can book symphonix do it. Right? i told you that i will try with all my force to not allow it right? so far so good. Now you come and tell me that i booked arara and i do the same thing with neverland etc etc ok? if neverland wanted to block this booking then it is still fine with me. I will try to keep the booking and the story goes on and on and on. Thats how it works man! it is soooo fucking simple and legal as all other similar activities on a free market nothing more or less
I hope that you can understand what i am talking about. It is a matter of target, abilities, and plans. You say that you do this for fun and that's great. I say that i do it for fun and living too. I am very sorry that you didn't managed to get your self together all these years with what you love and put it all together organising your life, but man this is not my fault
you said that i did the same with the other "promoters". Ofcourse i did and i will do it again and again no hard feelings no purpose NOTHING at all. It is what i do man! you find it so bad that a raver turned his passion in to a real way of living?
You are saying that emok and peter didjital speaking the worst about my organisation. Well we will have a reply about this very soon in this topic from an official source
you say that you have clear intentions and you do this for fun? ok then here is your answer since you ask for it. wich organising team arranged two parties this year in the universities? i think it was camoflash eh? why these parties were organised the exact date when free frequency had announced events on these two dates? You see my inocent "goa head" ? THIS IS HOW YOU DESTROY A PARTY. Not by
trying to keep your planed djs as scheduled.(thats what i do btw)
Finding a free place as a university and launching events to fuck up free frequency is your ways for having fun??? man you have very kinky ways to have fun. Congratulations
Petraki cut the crap of your "inocent intentions" and bulshit and pass this childish nonsense to someone else. The story of plur won't fool anyone here. Once more i am telling you .Get your self together and mostly get a life it's been too long since 97 don't you think its time to get one?
bom shankar
You're going too far man and i'm no petrakis for you and for nobody ok efthimaki?
Who the F** you think you are to judge my life or my attitude???
You see people are not like you mr.Promoter
I'm not that inocent and it's my mistake to let you think something like that but i guess that happened because i treated you with more respect than you really deserve.. You would be suprised if you see my other side sometime and if you insist i promise you will..
But now i'll only give you a small writen sample.
You are too far from me and way behind...
Since 1995 i've done so many things that you could not even imagine thogh you have seen many with your own eyes..I'm a professional D.j playing for Radio,contless Clubs and Parties and all the cafe bars of the Psychedelic trance scene in this city..and for all the promoters from 1995 till now..I'm playing Music at the most established and the older bar of this city as Thermaikos is for 2 1/2 years and getting paid for it..And respect from many established D.j's of the city for my skills!
Not only to my parties,as you do or at "exchange parties as you do...
I've been voted by the people of this city as the best Psychedelic Trance D.j in 1997 and the best radio producer on Lemon Magazine.Probably that was the year that you might have started thinking of being a D.j.... efthimako..
You came once at a party in 1998 at mylos and tell me " Hi i 'm listening to your radio program and bullshit like this".But i guess you don't remember now..
At this time nobody knew you and of course you had no life i guess..
Nowdays i'm still active and i'm playing music....Where and WHEN i want and i'm not selling my self and my beliefs for your 150 euro price.. still getting propposals even from your team (before this story)..and i have the guts
to refuse when i got to...than to be "used" from people like you!
About you now...suddenly you became a d.j and you found a life!!And then a party promoter and you think you "got the the priest from the balls.."
That was your goal and good for you efthimako!!
But this is not my intension or my personal goal..So if that means to you that i don't have a life and You do....it's OK for me
Believe me if i wanted i could do it and if i want i can do it..
But this is someting with an expiration date judging from my experience,and when you will wake up from your Ego trip you will see the reality...
Ok efthimako?
And i'll be glad to hear whatever you have to say about all this in person if you like..
Peace Love And Unity hahaha
Cheers
P.S : At the time that you are talking about the University Parties and Free Frequency i was not an active member of camoflash so this is out of my teritory man...
And for your info today we have full support from Free Frequency so they don't need your skills as a lawyer...
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sungroup
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Posted : Jun 26, 2006 04:23
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You keep on fighting guys and it is silly
So i can not help my self on posting some things too
at peter zen : man our city is small and things are traveling fast. There were some people at underground shop and saw you when you and creon entered and started yeling with a threating "style". This is very stupid and even if you have any right you never get it if you act like this.
the things with the anti party on university is something that i pointed some months ago on another topic i was saying then to all promoters to find their dates and act carefull and watch out not to turn our scene as the athens university kindergarden style and last sorry my friend but i never ever remember you organising any party (sorry if i am wrong) i have sth like 2-3 years to see or hear from you. If you knew from the first time that E.M. will be anoyed with these bookings why you moved on without talking from the first time with them? I mean there are 100 artists of this kind, why you had to book 2 artists that you know that EM are booking them oftenly? Anyway i wish you good luck with your efforts frm now and on
at tim
you shouldn't pay to much attention or take your self this seriously (no offense)
you make some of the best parties here and i don't see a point of trying to make all the bookings for your organisation. My humble opinion is that you should focus and save your energy for the big massive celebrations that you organise emok, symphonix and all the other progressive stuff is not what your organisation should bother so much for. Ofcourse this is my opinion i.e. try and make some more free events like this one on friday with local prog and full on djs if it is possible. It is obvious that your personal style is for prog and if you just want to keep a contact with this scene , then do as i said above. Organise some free events and this way you can keep your contact and your "having fun" part with the progressive thing. You saw what happened on friday?
Anyway these are some thoughts of mine. I hope the best for every one involved in organising events here.
peace and love to all
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tim@motion
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Posted : Jun 26, 2006 05:01
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good luck with your party peter. This conversation is pointless. I can now say that neverland doesn't need you as a lawyer and you can continue with my ego trip and after i can come up with the dj thing and remind you how i was explaining to you how the cdjs were working on 98 at mylos when you didn't even knew what mixing means mr dj
The thing is that the party organisation thing is just a part of my life. Soon i will enter another field very well connected with the scene and i guess that then i can say that i have a life
most of the time my slogan is that life sucks anyway
that's all from me .Have a nice morning
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Peter Zen
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Posted : Jun 27, 2006 04:16
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On 2006-06-26 04:23, sungroup wrote:
You keep on fighting guys and it is silly
So i can not help my self on posting some things too
at peter zen : man our city is small and things are traveling fast. There were some people at underground shop and saw you when you and creon entered and started yeling with a threating "style". This is very stupid and even if you have any right you never get it if you act like this.
Peter Zen wrote:
Well..sungroup you know that traveling rumours sometimes are changing on the way..
Yes,we went there but we threatened nobody and i insist on this..
If you believe what Kreon said about hiring a lawyer is a threat,so then it is
But unfortunately a lawyer could do nothing about this situation..as there was no paper work,contracts etc.. for both sides.
About yelling now..When you're "chocking from,right.." as a Greek expression says (otan se pnigei to dikio) and when you get seek of the greedines of some people then yelling is a normal reaction i guess..
We didn't use any bad language to velis or any words as tim used at his posts above..
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the things with the anti party on university is something that i pointed some months ago on another topic i was saying then to all promoters to find their dates and act carefull and watch out not to turn our scene as the athens university kindergarden style
Peter Zen wrote:
When a party is organised at such a small place,(for 200-250 people)as xylourgeio is,
and the success is granded for teams as Free Frequency..i find no reason why a city with such a big audience should have only one party..
Though i never liked what happened..
I'm against anti-parties..but that term is not completely right when you have two parties with different concept..(general comment)
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sungroup wrote:
and last sorry my friend but i never ever remember you organising any party (sorry if i am wrong) i have sth like 2-3 years to see or hear from you.
Peter Zen wrote:
Well you are forgiven for your ignorance mate
I can't compare my self to organised teams and
i allways keep a low profile on what i do..unless i'm forced to do the opposite.
As i wrote above i do parties from time to time,for fun..and to share my musical taste with other people.
Allways trying for a possitive vibe..
I haven't done so many i guess from 1997 till nowdays..but here are a few names just for your info..
SUN Project '97-'98,Tim Schuldt '97-'98 (at Mylos-Apothiki with Simon Richard),Mark Van der Vlught (with Kostas "Samsara" at Cavo Dimo)'99,Gabriel Le Mar'04,Deep Dive corp (dj PmFm)'04,The Orb (Alex Paterson)'04 (all three at Thermaikos),Ryan Halifax'04,Anti(Spiral Trax) 04,(summer seasson)at Katmandu Club@Marmaras Halkidiki..
In between these years i did a few more with many of the local dj's such as Doc,Stratos,Tikis,Xperience,TimXtreme,Kostas "Samsara",Simon Richard,
Themis(IXOP),Leoni,Jordan(ath),Aidaho(ath) at other places and allso at places above..
You allso say that you haven't heard nothing about me for 2-3 years..
I guess if you are interested about me and my activities,you should open your eyes and ears
The truth is that the last party i played before the one with Pena(flow records),Tikis Kreon @ Banana on the 10 of june,was the Camoflash party @ Boogie-Epanomi with Doc, Krama,Kreon on may '05...
Anyway if you're interested i can sent you
my Bio to check and you'll find out there is no longer pause than the one above..
Wich is quite normal for somebody who is playing music since 1995 without beeing any particular promoter's close friend or "groupie".. ;-)
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sungroup wrote:
If you knew from the first time that E.M. will be anoyed with these bookings why you moved on without talking from the first time with them? I mean there are 100 artists of this kind, why you had to book 2 artists that you know that EM are booking them oftenly? Anyway i wish you good luck with your efforts frm now and on
Peter Zen wrote:
You must be joking my friend...As you know
and as also tim wrote at his posts above too, is a free market!!!
So the artists are free,and nobody's belongings or property..
In the begining me and Kreon had a plan to throw a couple of parties for the summer with some of our favourite d.j's or live acts.
Although most of them have played for E.M
and other teams too,we are not supposed to ask for nobody's permission..
If there is no Contract in the middle and the artist is free,then it's up to him or his
booking agency..
So this is how it works mate ;-)
Besides as you can see with your own eyes in this topic and in other topics of the past.. They (E.M) spread so much negativity on most of the teams,wich are making parties with many different ways..
And as you can see they are laughing against Peace Love and Unity attitude so they wouldn't deserve such a treatment from us.
I hope my reply will satisfy your comments and "questions"
Take care and i hope you'll come at our party!!
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Peter Zen
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Posted : Jun 27, 2006 04:51
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On 2006-06-26 05:01, tim@motion wrote:
good luck with your party peter. This conversation is pointless. I can now say that neverland doesn't need you as a lawyer and you can continue with my ego trip..
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and after i can come up with the dj thing and remind you how i was explaining to you how the cdjs were working on 98 at mylos when you didn't even knew what mixing means mr dj
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Peter Zen wrote:
You don't remember very well man..Yes it's true but this happened maybe one year later at your house..
Yes i was not such good at mixing,as i was playing music with DAT's..but that time the whole thing for trance music was about keeping a certain row
of emotions leading to a state of mind and body condition and not about mixing..
but i guess this is to "innocent goa head"
stuff for you
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The thing is that the party organisation thing is just a part of my life. Soon i will enter another field very well connected with the scene and i guess that then i can say that i have a life
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Peter Zen wrote:
Good for you..So you'd better concentrate to your life and advise yourself not ME
Keep your negativity away from us and our parties and things will go just fine..
C u around..
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Peter Zen
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wirelles
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15euros+Drink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only Camoflash can make something like this
BRAVO re!!!!!!!!!!!!
A long time dring+entrange+15euros
with 3 profesional DJ'S?
what can a say, we need more event's like this Camoflash GO ON
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Posted : Jun 27, 2006 10:58
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hey goodmorning .Thank god there is israatrance and we have spicy mornings .So im reading the shit obove annd just came to share my oppinion .
There where words like market ,profesional , promoters , ntavatzides , ksulo.
All this make me wandering if those who talk like this really care of trance scene or having all their sences working . I still remember alltogether dancing in a place at halkidiki
And why you have this talking ? Who did mension a market .there is no market at all .It shouldnt be . keep it underground and dont screw the feeling of people coming to the parties .
We dont care what have happent between you guys . Dont care who has better contacts or profile we just want to share good vibes in the sstages and dancing good tunes .
sometime ,have killer parties full nrg .
Hola Tasos ::Flame
ps. kisses to thessaloniki girls and damod |
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djtikis
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Posted : Jun 27, 2006 11:29
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hi to all
my friend wirelles all djs are profesional from biggest labels in scene....
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tim@motion
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Posted : Jun 27, 2006 15:34
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please leave me @ my egw trip
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~Paranoia~
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On 2006-06-27 10:58, constructed wrote:
hey goodmorning .Thank god there is israatrance and we have spicy mornings .So im reading the shit obove annd just came to share my oppinion .
There where words like market ,profesional , promoters , ntavatzides , ksulo.
All this make me wandering if those who talk like this really care of trance scene or having all their sences working . I still remember alltogether dancing in a place at halkidiki
And why you have this talking ? Who did mension a market .there is no market at all .It shouldnt be . keep it underground and dont screw the feeling of people coming to the parties .
We dont care what have happent between you guys . Dont care who has better contacts or profile we just want to share good vibes in the sstages and dancing good tunes .
sometime ,have killer parties full nrg .
Hola Tasos ::Flame
ps. kisses to thessaloniki girls and damod
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Like you see this is the real point of view.We don 't care about your personal problems and we don't care if E.M. make a party or Camoflash or Neverland or . . . we just want Partys.
Bring good names and close good places with good entrance and drinks and all the ppl who like this music will folow
Cheers
Paranoia I.R.A.O. Weed
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Posted : Jun 27, 2006 19:51
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On 2006-06-27 16:07, ~Paranoia~ wrote:
Like you see this is the real point of view.We don 't care about your personal problems and we don't care if E.M. make a party or Camoflash or Neverland or . . . we just want Partys.
Bring good names and close good places with good entrance and drinks and all the ppl who like this music will folow
Cheers
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and some beautiful dancers if possible please 
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sungroup
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Posted : Jun 27, 2006 21:11
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my friend Peter zen, when i said "why you didn't first talk all together" i didn't mean that you have to ask permition....I thought you were friends
sorry for not remembering the events you mentioned .
But the final thing i want to say is that you all have to talk IN the first time before hurting eachother (E.M. , free frequency, camoflash, cyberians, plasmatica etc
And btw i don't believe in the plur thing too. I just want serious work from all of you and you all doing fine don't need to spoil it now
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AbsolutZero(D.V.M.)
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