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Calling for tracks for upcoming compilation(s)

nyama
Nyama

Started Topics :  45
Posts :  745
Posted : Nov 4, 2008 19:10
+1 for mr.bloodclot!

i think its great peeps behind catawampus, surely they dont wanna rip off anybody... and like said before its simple: you dont like the idea, dont send a track...
          -----------------------------------------------
www.catawampus-records.co.uk
subconsciousmind
SCM

Started Topics :  37
Posts :  1033
Posted : Nov 5, 2008 19:30
All this 5 page discussion, just because of the money.
??

Anybody in here who thinks that in todays psytrance market ANY money can be made from CDSales has no Idea. Sorry.

Money from CD Sales is for the top of the top acts.

Far too few CDs sold nowadays. Making a CD promoted and printed easily costs 2000Euro on its own. If you add the saleries for the tracks you end up with 3000 Euros..

Pay this from your pocket... and there is a high risk you go nowhere even if the music is good, since psyshop and such discriminate any unknown stuff....


If you want money go and make house.

If you want money from PsyTrance you can only do it with live gigs.          Most of my music for you to download at:
http://www.subconsciousmind.ch
Medea
Aedem/Medea

Started Topics :  127
Posts :  1132
Posted : Nov 5, 2008 21:16
Also I wanted to add that

"investing in gear" is not investing, it is "buying toys"           http://soundcloud.com/aedem
galactic monkey
Galactic Monkey

Started Topics :  84
Posts :  975
Posted : Nov 5, 2008 21:44
+1,+1

bOoM!!!           Skyhighatrist and Galactic Monkey - Strangely Obtuse CD available for £6 delivered worldwide from www.catawampus-records.co.uk
Upavas
Upavas

Started Topics :  150
Posts :  3315
Posted : Nov 5, 2008 22:19
Quote:

On 2008-11-05 19:30, subconsciousmind wrote:
All this 5 page discussion, just because of the money.
??

Anybody in here who thinks that in todays psytrance market ANY money can be made from CDSales has no Idea. Sorry.

Money from CD Sales is for the top of the top acts.

Far too few CDs sold nowadays. Making a CD promoted and printed easily costs 2000Euro on its own. If you add the saleries for the tracks you end up with 3000 Euros..

Pay this from your pocket... and there is a high risk you go nowhere even if the music is good, since psyshop and such discriminate any unknown stuff....


If you want money go and make house.

If you want money from PsyTrance you can only do it with live gigs.



Last I heard the going salaries were around 200 Euro's per track and around 2200 Euros per whole cd.

Anybody paying you less either does a good deal for himself or has not much of a label, or both.

Nobody said it was any easier for the labels.

And now imagine no artist giving his sound for free. What would happen then?           Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
http://timecode.bandcamp.com
http://upavas.com
http://soundcloud.com/upavas-1/
Vermeee
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  108
Posts :  1069
Posted : Nov 5, 2008 22:41
hey upava we already know u love money....

mickey mouse doesnt like poor children..

and sadly he doesnt like psytrance too...

so no money for us.... unless u convince micky mouse to support psytrance

and well.. yea i need money too , but i look for jobs to get money ... no psytrance.           
http://soundcloud.com/bgos
subconsciousmind
SCM

Started Topics :  37
Posts :  1033
Posted : Nov 6, 2008 09:24
Quote:

On 2008-11-05 22:19, Upavas wrote:
Quote:

On 2008-11-05 19:30, subconsciousmind wrote:
All this 5 page discussion, just because of the money.
??

Anybody in here who thinks that in todays psytrance market ANY money can be made from CDSales has no Idea. Sorry.

Money from CD Sales is for the top of the top acts.

Far too few CDs sold nowadays. Making a CD promoted and printed easily costs 2000Euro on its own. If you add the saleries for the tracks you end up with 3000 Euros..

Pay this from your pocket... and there is a high risk you go nowhere even if the music is good, since psyshop and such discriminate any unknown stuff....


If you want money go and make house.

If you want money from PsyTrance you can only do it with live gigs.



Last I heard the going salaries were around 200 Euro's per track and around 2200 Euros per whole cd.

Anybody paying you less either does a good deal for himself or has not much of a label, or both.

Nobody said it was any easier for the labels.

And now imagine no artist giving his sound for free. What would happen then?




Tell me.

          Most of my music for you to download at:
http://www.subconsciousmind.ch
Upavas
Upavas

Started Topics :  150
Posts :  3315
Posted : Nov 6, 2008 13:33
Quote:

On 2008-11-05 22:41, Vermeee wrote:
hey upava we already know u love money....

mickey mouse doesnt like poor children..

and sadly he doesnt like psytrance too...

so no money for us.... unless u convince micky mouse to support psytrance


and well.. yea i need money too , but i look for jobs to get money ... no psytrance.





OK, first of all Mickey Mouse LOOOVES Psytrance,

second like you I have a real job,

third it is not about the money, it is about giving and receiving in balance.
And that includes money. Unless the label is big enough so I can do live gigs after some releases with them.

Fourth, please give your track to the guy for free, since you are so convinced it is the right thing to do.

fifth, Have a nice day.

Sixth, Please spell my name right when conversing with me.

seventh, have a reefer

8th drink a beer

9th pop some pillz

10th Muahahahahah

          Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
http://timecode.bandcamp.com
http://upavas.com
http://soundcloud.com/upavas-1/
Vermeee
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  108
Posts :  1069
Posted : Nov 6, 2008 15:41
haha no way mickey mouse likes psytrance man

NO WAY haha
          
http://soundcloud.com/bgos
Upavas
Upavas

Started Topics :  150
Posts :  3315
Posted : Nov 6, 2008 22:19
See , he doesn't like cheese, but he definitely likes Psytrance...
I bet you like cheese...           Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
http://timecode.bandcamp.com
http://upavas.com
http://soundcloud.com/upavas-1/
Vermeee
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  108
Posts :  1069
Posted : Nov 7, 2008 01:04
anyway.. i believe in respect im just kiddin with u my friend

cheesin.... but i dont like cheese.

and HEY MY TRACK S UP THERE \o kkk ( Its amateur but not cheese )           
http://soundcloud.com/bgos
vegetal
Vegetal/Peacespect

Started Topics :  19
Posts :  1055
Posted : Nov 7, 2008 11:58
Quote:

On 2008-11-06 13:33, Upavas wrote:
Quote:

On 2008-11-05 22:41, Vermeee wrote:
hey upava we already know u love money....

mickey mouse doesnt like poor children..

and sadly he doesnt like psytrance too...

so no money for us.... unless u convince micky mouse to support psytrance


and well.. yea i need money too , but i look for jobs to get money ... no psytrance.





OK, first of all Mickey Mouse LOOOVES Psytrance,

second like you I have a real job,

third it is not about the money, it is about giving and receiving in balance.
And that includes money. Unless the label is big enough so I can do live gigs after some releases with them.

Fourth, please give your track to the guy for free, since you are so convinced it is the right thing to do.

fifth, Have a nice day.

Sixth, Please spell my name right when conversing with me.

seventh, have a reefer

8th drink a beer

9th pop some pillz

10th Muahahahahah





Does Mickey Mouse need anger management courses? it seems so           Demand recognition for the Armenian genocide 1915
http://www.devilsmindrecords.org/
http://www.myspace.com/vegetalmusic
http://www.checkpoint-music.com/
yggster


Started Topics :  6
Posts :  87
Posted : Nov 7, 2008 16:32
Quote:

On 2008-11-05 21:16, Medea wrote:
Also I wanted to add that

"investing in gear" is not investing, it is "buying toys"




It depends on what you buy. Buy new shit (vst's, virus etc.) and loose a third of your money as soon as you walk out the store door...or buy old gear that holds it's value or even raises it over the years (Moog, ARP, SCI and so on).

But sure, toys they are either way!
Nerdkiller


Started Topics :  2
Posts :  71
Posted : Nov 7, 2008 19:01
mickey mouse is into tribal house sheet. As far as I've been told...           Jesus loves you...
But the rest of us think you're a tranny.
Divine Stones
Divine Stones

Started Topics :  21
Posts :  263
Posted : Nov 7, 2008 20:03
Quote:

On 2008-11-05 19:30, subconsciousmind wrote:
All this 5 page discussion, just because of the money.
??

Anybody in here who thinks that in todays psytrance market ANY money can be made from CDSales has no Idea. Sorry.

Money from CD Sales is for the top of the top acts.

Far too few CDs sold nowadays. Making a CD promoted and printed easily costs 2000Euro on its own. If you add the saleries for the tracks you end up with 3000 Euros..

Pay this from your pocket... and there is a high risk you go nowhere even if the music is good, since psyshop and such discriminate any unknown stuff....


If you want money go and make house.

If you want money from PsyTrance you can only do it with live gigs.



I couldn't agree more... that's it!           Divine Stones (Urban Antidote Records)

www.soundcloud.com/divine-stones
www.urbanantidote.com
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