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Calling for tracks for upcoming compilation(s)
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Catawampus Records
Catawampus Records
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Posted : Oct 28, 2008 16:02:04
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As we are approaching the release of wampus001
our eyes are looking towards the next releases, and the wonderful opportunity for us to hopefully promote/release some of the tracks from our collective's producers.
If you would like to be part of this adventure, please send us tracks which you think best represent your music.
The tracks need to be unreleased elsewhere and you need to not send it/them on to anyone else whilst the track is under consideration with us. Tracks need to be sent to us as a 320k/bit mp3 via sendspace or a cd .wav by post.(email for addy)
We are collecting for the next album until the end of january.Then we will compile a VA from the amassed tracks.
We plan to initially put out one VA of twisty nightime goodness, and another VA of random oddness and eclectic chilled beats.
so really we can cover quite a lot of bases with that remit.
If your track is chosen we will then ask for an unmastered 24bit wav version which will then be mastered for the compilation.
Unfortunately we are not in a position at present to pay for any tracks we are offered, but we will be producing a stunning high quality product, with worldwide and digital distribution which will offer excellent promotional opportunities for you. At this time any money received will be used to finance the cost of this and future releases.
Please feel free to ask me for more info, and we really look forward to hearing you tunes
addy for snail mail - email catawampus@btinternet.com |
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Kane
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Posted : Oct 28, 2008 18:02
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On 2008-10-28 16:02:04, Catawampus Records wrote:
Unfortunately we are not in a position at present to pay for any tracks we are offered
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Unless you're giving it away for free, why not? Paying up front isn't the only option..why don't you just do a profit split?
Otherwise I would be interested..
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eole
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Posted : Oct 28, 2008 19:56
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+1
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Catawampus Records
Catawampus Records
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Posted : Oct 28, 2008 23:14
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Thank you for your interest in Catawampus and interesting comment.
Catawampus was set up and is funded by producers to provide an alternative opportunity for artists to release boundary expanding tunes that may otherwise not be heard. We do this to provide exposure for the tracks and artists who make us wiggle and grin on the dance floor and inspire us by daring to be different. We are looking for like minded people who love the music and the good vibes that it brings more than the money, to join us in this crazy adventure. Who knows where it will take us all? We are up front about the lack of payment so that everyone is aware exactly what the deal is.
If selected, your track will be released on CD worldwide, distributed by Arabesque. You will receive some promotional copies. Our releases will top quality in terms of music, artwork and packaging. Whilst Catawampus does not currently put on events (this will change), members of Catawampus do put on regular psy events in different guises and have strong links with other promoters around the UK. We believe that by being part of this project, artists will receive valuable promotional materials that will help them gain exposure, gigs and generally increase their opportunities.
If you are not happy with this deal please do NOT send us your music. If there are any profits to be made (and in the age of file sharing this is difficult) they will be pumped back into more releases and providing more opportunities for more artists. If there is a loss, progress will still take place but at a steadier pace funded by the day jobs and enthusiasm of the founders.
Good luck to everyone in their productions whatever path they choose to take.
The Catawampii |
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Kane
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Posted : Oct 28, 2008 23:34
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I still don't see the logic in this idea. You want to help artists by not giving something in return for their art? Sorry, but giving away tracks for free to a no name label doesn't increase your opportunities, it's just stupid. If you aren't going to pay anyone involved, you're going to end up with no name artists, and YOU are going to lose money. I think most experienced and released artists would also be willing to help you out in starting this project without asking for upfront payment, but not paying the people who made it happen at all is ridiculous.
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realtime
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Posted : Oct 28, 2008 23:49
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Posted : Oct 29, 2008 00:17
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On 2008-10-28 23:34, Kane wrote:
I still don't see the logic in this idea. You want to help artists by not giving something in return for their art? Sorry, but giving away tracks for free to a no name label doesn't increase your opportunities, it's just stupid. If you aren't going to pay anyone involved, you're going to end up with no name artists, and YOU are going to lose money. I think most experienced and released artists would also be willing to help you out in starting this project without asking for upfront payment, but not paying the people who made it happen at all is ridiculous.
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I Agree
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Catawampus Records
Catawampus Records
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Posted : Oct 29, 2008 00:24
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All artists and labels have to start somewhere. This is an opportunity for those that wish to take it. I fully respect your decision and opinion. We ARE being open about it. We recognise this is not a deal everybody would be happy with. We are looking for people like ourselves that are not primarily motivated by money. The whole idea is to give up and coming artists a chance as well those established artists who believe in what we are doing. You would be amazed at some of the mind bending tracks that are just not released or are confined to digital downloads and don’t get the exposure they deserve. With time this label will expand and become better known, as will the artists connected with it. This is an opportunity to release music but NOT an opportunity to make money. The artist gets their track(s) released at our expense; if there is a profit it will help us release more music and this furthers a network of like minded producers. There will be releases even if a loss is made. If this doesn’t sound good to you then it’s not for you, don’t send us your tracks. We wish you good luck with your future productions. I think we should agree to disagree. |
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assaf
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Posted : Oct 29, 2008 00:28
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kane my friend, you will be suprised to know the amount of lables today that dont pay, and the amount of artists(even famous) that release their music for free.. |
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Upavas
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Posted : Oct 29, 2008 01:25
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Agreed Assaf, but that is not a reason to not give some money to the artist.
I am sick and tired of so called promotional gigs, I have done them for film here in Vancouver in the past until I said one day that "enough is enough". If people want to use my art and my expertise they should pay for it, just like I pay for a new plugin or for groceries in the supermarket.
That does not mean I am primarily motivated by money, but I gotta live off of something dude.
Of course there is always the other side, the fact that there are plenty rippers out there who do not hesitate to distribute freshly released sound all over the web, thus making it very hard for most labels to survive.
So some kind of compromise is needed.
To say that this is a promotional gig is not enough, given you have never even released anything before.
Like you said, all artists and all labels have to start somewhere. Start by doing what is fair to everyone and good vibes will come back to you, it really is that simple. If you pay the artists they might just remember you.
You know, artists may not ask for much monetary compensation, but some $ should be given, make it a $100 bucks per track, even $50 but make it something. It is only fair to everyone!
Good luck with your label!
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Kane
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Posted : Oct 29, 2008 04:21
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On 2008-10-29 00:28, assaf wrote:
kane my friend, you will be suprised to know the amount of lables today that dont pay, and the amount of artists(even famous) that release their music for free..
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I know very well..not mentioning any names, although it's fairly obvious.
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XuN
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Posted : Oct 29, 2008 04:34
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On 2008-10-28 16:02:04, Catawampus Records wrote:
Unfortunately we are not in a position at present to pay for any tracks we are offered, but we will be producing a stunning high quality product, with worldwide and digital distribution which will offer excellent promotional opportunities for you. At this time any money received will be used to finance the cost of this and future releases.
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What is worldwide digital distribution? We talking beatport?
www.xun.dk / myspace.com/xundk
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Kane
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Posted : Oct 29, 2008 04:58
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^ soulseek, the way this looks 
sorry, couldn't resist.
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the daleks
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Posted : Oct 29, 2008 05:22
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On 2008-10-28 16:02:04, Catawampus Records wrote:
The tracks need to be unreleased elsewhere and you need to not send it/them on to anyone else whilst the track is under consideration with us.
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what about after the release? if there is no-exclusivity with the track, then I see no problem with non-payment. i.e. if I re-release the track to another label AFTER the compiliation is made
please clarify. there are many artists releasing their music on the net as free digital downloads, so getting a track on a physical media with artwork, etc plus distribution doesn't seem to be that bad of a deal.
Gamma Riders EP out now on iTunes and Amazon.com!
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Seppa
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Posted : Oct 29, 2008 09:15
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Guys now a days those who actually make money out of release in the scene are not many. Here you got an opportunity to make your track heard..
You should really see a release as a promo.
Personally I wouldn't give exclusivity like it is asked here unless I give it to established people in the scene (whether or not its a new label).
why? because I would expect them to help me get to play at parties and use this release to promote me.
Second you want to be associated with a label that releases music you like. |
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