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butchering the amazing music of the world- dumb casio people go away
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elektric sheep
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Posted : Dec 2, 2009 12:39
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On 2009-12-02 11:04, lessless.sb wrote:
get rid of Irina Mihalkova
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so concur with that 
completely ruined ocelot's one for me.
only so many times you can put up with that fake harem moaning
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shahar
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Posted : Dec 16, 2009 10:36
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As someone who listens to a lot of music from around the world, and who has been traveling a lot and collecting a lot of local music along the way, I can relate to what Ocelot wrote in a way.
It is true that a lot of the use of ethnic elements in psychill and in electronic music in general is done many times with a lack of understanding and respect to that music. To those who know the original music some of this can really sound like horrible abuse, and sometimes it is just that.
The whole 'world music' phenomena that has swept the Western world (mainly) in the last couple of decades most of the time basically uses ethnic elements in western musical patterns. This is a very interesting issue and it has been discussed heavily. Many say that actually this world music genre distorts and even badly damages music from around the world more then it helps spreading it to the west (by attracting leading traditional musicians to give up on their traditional music patterns in favor of those that will be more accessible to the audiences in the west.
I tend to look differently at things. Any inter-cultural phenomena are natural, unavoidable and blessed as far as I'm concerned, especially in our age, because they bring different people (and cultures) together and create a dialog between them. Music is a great tool for that, as it is a non-verbal language with elements that cross cultures/languages. A language is a key to a cultural door, and music is the master key that can fit any and all doors. For example often-patronizing parodies on oriental/eastern music that were made in the 80s here in Israel by mainstream artists opened the door for me and turned out to be the beginning of a musical journey that brought me to listen to traditional and classical Arab and Andalusian music. In the same way I'm sure that many people who were exposed to the overused and often abused Asha Bhonsle samples that were on some sample CD and were featured on tons of tracks (f.e. Ott's Smoked Glass and Chrome) ended up checking her beautiful singing (and if not, here's your chance).
There's good in this as well, Ocelot, and I think this discussion is doing good in itself. And yes, I will be happier to see musicians using ethnic samples, actually studying at least a little about the original music they are using.
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iTranscendence
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Posted : Dec 16, 2009 14:36
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punkah
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Posted : Dec 16, 2009 16:48
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100% with ocelot.
do it properly, or leave it alone (better).
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