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Building my DAW: Need help choosing between these 3 Mobos
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fregle
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Posted : May 14, 2005 15:31
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let's not change this into a 'who has the biggest dick' contest please... mac is great but expensive, never have to worry about incompatibility or conflicts or stuff that doesn't want to install or virusses/spyware. PC is most widely used and supported, cheap, but gives u headaches all the time because of stupid problems occuring seemingly at random... Linux is fabulous because it's the cheapest of them all (freeeeeeeee), it can be installed on ANY machine (even on the Xbox and the G5) and is much more performant and secure then windows if configured decently, problem is that installing and configuring linux is a job that requires lot's of knowledge. Alpha's are imo the best machines of all time... they are completely parrallel and redundant, are completely and truely 64-bit (unlike those new 64-bit pc's that only have a 64-bit processor but are 32 bit for the rest, that's also why an alpha only works with special versions of linux, unix or sun OS), that makes that a 133MHz alpha kicks the ass of a PIII600MHz (and i had the opportunity to test that) with the same amount of RAM and the same HD's
So they all have they're advantages and disadvantages, just choose what u like best... |
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High Pulse
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Posted : May 14, 2005 19:03
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On 2005-05-13 23:00, z1P^ wrote:
Fuck apple!
the x86 formula says
half the money, double performance
long live the pc platform ;D
i always thinked like that until one day , the day were the light comme into my head hauhauhauhauahuha
im not here to arg with somebody or discuss
and rishi if i would u i would read very carefully specs from one and another then will see who gives bether development in the area of HDD +ram /cpu = monster front side bus ,  chek only the board they have for ex: , running photoshop with 650 megas of effect running in diferent machines , then chek hows the things are in reality  , and how many ppl saying , today buying a g5 is expensive , well i disagree , mac g5 each month are slowing they'r prices ::) u have dual 1.8 ghz g5 very acessible prices , with a great performance , and more one thing ultra silent :=) eeejhe
so its only a way of seeing the thing ,
and just like freggle said mac no problem with compatibility conflict or viruses spywares etc , pc is the based more used inn the world but , to many bad things they have !!and more one thing making maachines (pc) at 64 bits etc ºpower bvlablabla ,, and only run at 64 bit in the cpu , the rest is at 32 , for me its a totally joke =
but ok each one buy and use what they whant , and i say here again
im not here criticising nobody
just a honest opinion , from a user that always want to use pc's and shit on mac 's , i didnt change just for change or because i add a bit of money to buy it . i only bought mac 2 reasons , logic 7 pro , and because this give me a power that i never had before in a good pc
taake care
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http://www.myspace.com/highpulsemusic
http://www.beatbiz.net/artists/High-Pulse <- musiC FOR SELL. |
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leafsunbear
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Posted : May 14, 2005 19:27
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I am also building a PC. I was looking at the MSI K8N neo4 Platinum SLI MOBO, with a athlon 64 3200+ "venice" core. I want the 939 socket cor upgrade ability later. I also thought the SLI tech could be usefull if I ever wanted to run more graphics. I am starting to question these ideas. It seems that in the computer world there is very little info as to what MOBO's work good for making music. Right now there are at least three PC mags with MOBO reviews and there are MOBO reviews all over hte web. No where have I heard anything about nVidia 4 popping and clicking. I am glad I came back to this message board. So here's my dillema. I want to buy the best MOBO I can, for a decent price and I want to get the athlon 64 cause it will run 64-bit when that is all out and available. I also want the MOBO to be able to run dual core when it comes out. Just incase it is better. Oh and about 64-bit, windows XP64 is out from what I read yesterday. It is available as a upgrade to XP pro only though. I like the idea of PCIX only for running a video card. SLI would give me the ability to buy a cheaper card now and get a second later and run them in tandem. Not that I am a big gamer, but my partner is. anywho, this post has been very helpfull if any one could suggest some alternatives |
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Fragletrollet
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Posted : May 14, 2005 21:26
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On 2005-05-13 18:11, john_c wrote:
hey everybody thanks for replying.
Fragletrollet: I totally wanted to go with the MSI board. The only problem is I'm a newb when it comes to building PC's and my friend whos buiding it for me is good but I don't know how good. Did you have to do massive amounts of work to get it up and running? Or should it be smooth sailing if I go with good Brand name memory?
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Hey
I Use M-Audio Delta 1010. The machine was up and going with no stress at all... plug and play. First time I put together a computer from total scratch. Works as a dream.
CPU: AMD64 3500+ HT (socket 939, 648Kb cache)
Mem: OCZ 512*2 (the chepest OCZ 1Gb set I think) |
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john_c
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Posted : May 16, 2005 07:50
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leaf: very similar to me. Im going to be getting the 3500 Venice. With the poping and clicking I've researched, it totally depends on your setup. Nvidia really doesn't have benefits for music and it seems it has the biggest chance of conflicting with your sound. This is why I'm going with the ASUS A8V-e Delux. Its for the 939 socket type, has 1000 FSB, and dual channel memory support. Its a late generation VIA thats basically equal to NVidia 4 in performance minus the risk of conflicts. And ASUS is super reliable. Ive heard great things with MSI but many many people have problems with the board itself because MSI seems to not be as reliable as say ASUS or ABIT. |
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leafsunbear
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Posted : May 17, 2005 02:50
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John_C Thanks for the info. I had been steared towards the nVidia 4 chipset by a gamer friend. ANother friend said to contact the sound card manu and ask them about perfomance with certain MOBO's and Vs'versus, MOBO manu about sound cards. That is hard to do cause most of these companies aren't big on the PR thing. Well good luck with your build. I am going to need with mine.
Peace;
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john c
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Posted : May 17, 2005 18:00
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Sweet! Allenstein updated his specs to reflect the new 939 socket, results people have been posting makes these boards proven winners. and guess what? The Asus A8V-e Deluxe and A8V are now Allenstein preferred for socket 939! Wooo!
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leafsunbear
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Posted : May 17, 2005 20:07
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So there are two different chipsets available for that board. Asus A8V deluxe comes with the K8T800 Pro or the K8T890 chipset. The K8T890 has PCIxE and the 800 Pro does not. Any knowledge as to which one is better? I am thinking about the 890 cause having PCIxE could come in handy later on. If they start making PCIxE sound cards and get the drivers right. Or if I ever decide I want to get high end video card. I also am not sure if these chipsets will run 64-bit when it gets here. Which it allready is here, XP64 Pro is shipping as a upgrade to XP pro as we type. I am not sure what good a 64 OS will when running the apps we run, but I would think it would give use some more headroom so to speak. Well if you have the RAM to support the 64 bit OS in the first place. I can't see with the way RAM is these days running less then 1gb or even 2gb. These MOBOS have four slots for DDR and can go up to 4gb RAM in dual channel mode. I am giving myself two more months to figure this out.
Oh and who is Allenstein, wait I'll just google him. Thanks anyways.
Peace;
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john c
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Posted : May 17, 2005 21:34
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Google: "allenstein PLTE"
click on any of the Digi forum links and find the "best desktops for PTLE" thread.
Basically his name is Allen Hallada and hes constantly testing out the best affordable machines to run Pro tools. His machine recommendations (that he calls "Allenstein" like "Frankenstein" allow him to run 32 VSTi's + 200 plugins total for under $800! So if this kind of speed is accomplished in ProTools, you know it will work damn good for Cubase/Logic/Reason, etc. Both the 800 and 890 chips from ASUS seem to run like butter for audio. I got the PCI-E just for the hell of it if I want to upgrade later and utilize PCI-express. Its only like $8 more for the board so I wanted the latest. Either will do |
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john c
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Posted : May 17, 2005 21:36
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Any idea what RAM Is preferred by Asus? I can't find the info and its between Crucial Ballistix, Kingston Extreme, or Mushkin Extreme ram... |
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leafsunbear
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Posted : May 18, 2005 03:33
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Have you searched www.viaarena.com ? There is a forum there too, that might help. |
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