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Building a flow, in a chillout set...?

BrettFromTibet
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Posted : Nov 18, 2004 19:20
How do you like to build a logical progression, or flow...in a chillout set...?

I know it's a subtle and hard to describe thing.. but how do you visualize it?

Justin Chaos
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Posted : Nov 18, 2004 20:22
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Posted : Nov 20, 2004 00:52
how about going to the toilet backwards
CosmoNaughty
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Posted : Nov 20, 2004 14:47
I like to kind of map it all out beforehand it's the nature of chill out that it's going to ebb and flow I think but it still pays to be aware of the bpm from track to track, just to keep a momentum to the whole thing, only winding down so you can bring things back to the boil to maximum effect. The key to any djing is to know your records.
maer
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Posted : Nov 21, 2004 07:43
depends on the room/crowd/vibe.

i highly advise bringing along notes/memory of one, two, or more sets that have rocked (in whatever way) in the past.

i say either go with what moves you when you walk in the door, or just purely innovate on the fly. and if neither of those work, use those notes you brought =)

also, sometimes its hard to get a read on the room, or you're just nervous. so start with those notes, _then_ innovate - take it somewhere else once you start feeling it. this gets you over the initial hump, but gives you the creative room to feel like you created something new.

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Saturnia
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Posted : Nov 23, 2004 13:46
I find good pairs of tracks and plan 20 - 40 minute long beat-matched sets to which I add different tracks when I play. I modify my backbone sets when I get new tunes, so I keep my sets in a text file which I can edit and print for my next gig. Keeping my notes in a text file is also an excellent back-up.

I select tracks based on tempo and key and rhythmic patterns. I rarely change key mid-set and in thirds when I do. I play sets from about 70 (140/2 dub) to 125 bpm.
BrettFromTibet
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Posted : Nov 23, 2004 21:14
nice replies.

i picture building the flow in a kind of "fat Christmas Tree " shape. the tempo and rhythm rise in slowly...but with an occasional step down to keep it from boiling too far and having nowhere to go.

when it starts to cook, sometimes i like to take it down a small step in BPM, *with* a contrasting sound... like contrast from tribal to loungey, or silicon-electronic to organic...and then go back up to a higher peak next


i usually obsess over this and keep the first 10 tracks in memory - and go from there depending on the energy in the room, or response.

writing it down would probably save some sweat, and let me get the cue points and outros more perfectly.

anyways...flow is so important ... I don't enjoy than hearing people who seemingly play 'random' stuff that doesn't fit together. I need to study and learn how to flow like the ocean tides.
Akbal
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Posted : Nov 24, 2004 00:15
depends the amount of hours / days (jijijiji) available, and the situation.. personally I adore to start of sweet and female, than go mystic, than pure sound-scapes, one great mix of pure sounds telling their story and inter-act, than have rhythms come back in, so the people feel kinda releived after being thrown into their own imagination, tha comes day-time, beautifull psychedelic chill, followed by world-music, slowly guided into funky shit and when night-fall presents itself again, put them asleep with a journey through space, creating their dreams and guiding their dreams till the next morning..
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Posted : Nov 27, 2004 21:57
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furthur
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Posted : Dec 1, 2004 07:27
akbal, what do you mean by mystic exactly. just curious, if you can give an example or two, it would be much appreciated. also, really like your build-up of the flow.           Load Universe into Cannon. Aim at Brain. Fire.

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