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Bouncing off Vsti in nuendo / sx ??
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WAVELOGIX
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 15:23
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ok guys ,
since many ppl here using nuendo / sx ... i want a few ideas / working methods ...
now as i build my trk in nuendo .... after the whole sequence is finished .... i find tht the cpu usage is around 50 -60 % .. which leaves me with only 30 -35 % of processing power left for the mixdown to be done ...
now wat i want to know is tht .... wat do u ppl do to bounce off vsti to regain computing power ???
1. freeze vsti ?
2. select the regions to be bounced , bounce as audio , re import as an audio trk and mute the vsti channel ?
3. but does muting the vsti channel also unload it frm the memory as does the freeze option ...?
4. i also make my groove in nuendo [ kik , snare , percussion ]
but now as i have my bassline playing i need to audition kicks before i can select the "right " one ... how do i do this nuendo ... as far as i know its not possible ... [ thts y fruity is soo good ]
secondly once i have imported the samples onto the audio trk , how di i fine tune them ??? [ in cents ] .. in fruity there is a sampler so its very easy ....
hope u guys can help me with these issues , so tht my workflow smoothens considerably in nuendo ....
respect .... boom !
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Shroomy
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 15:49
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I usually bounce the vsti sequences down to audio and then import them into audio channels and then of course turn off the vsti in the instruments dialogue box. |
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Input
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 16:03
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well, i exporting the vst's into audio(i bypassing the eq first then i apply it again on the wav) then turn off the vst-
that's it, now if you will do it from the start of the track and keep it in order you wouldn't get into 35%-40% cpu power,
peace
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Triptocoma
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 18:05
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"but now as i have my bassline playing i need to audition kicks before i can select the "right " one ... how do i do this nuendo ... as far as i know its not possible ... [ thts y fruity is soo good ]"
Dont you use a sampler? or what am i missing? FL is like a big sampler with lots of functions.... maybe thats why  try Dr008 for your drums...
i would go with Shroomy and Inputs ways..... why make it difficult for you keep it dry! and as strong
output signal without distortion.. experiment and see what works best for you.... remember to leave some room for the sound to decay out completely, but you already knew that..
Global Tnet, you should trust your self more... i know i need to do that aswell...
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WAVELOGIX
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 19:11
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well i use a sampler and im damn comfortable with battery ....
but i know many ppl who directly import audio samples on audio trks and make the grooove .... and was just wondering how they do it ??
respect ... boom ! |
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Triptocoma
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 19:21
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everything can work...
isn´t it just to drag and drop the samples on audio tracks in nuendo?
still i would continue to work with a sampler if i was you.. but it cant harm to try out different methods...
good luck with the grooves |
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ThiagoNAKA
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 19:44
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Hey GTN. I make my groove like u said, only with audio tracks. Actually my track normally ends with only one midi track(the bassline).
About kick... Well, if I think it needs a pitch shift I do it on Cubase or sometimes I can open it on Wavelab and change it plus some pitch bend application. And import it as audio file on Cubase.
About groove I just import the audio files(chh,ohh,snare,loops) and play with them. For loops I also cut it to make it little different than original.
Sometimes pitch shift of a sampler is better than Cubase ones... This cases I load what i need on Battery/Kontakt, then export to wav and work with audio file. I fell much more confortable with audio instead midi tracks. (I really think I lose quality doing this... Am I right?)
Since I started to work like this, I have no more problems about overload-crash. But for sure a sampler has much more options to change the audio files.
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WAVELOGIX
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 21:43
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ok ... so i should continue using battery and rest all issues sorted ....
sms u only loose quality ... whn while bouncing to audio u bounce to 16 bit ...
always bounce to 32 bit floatin and it continues to sound as good !
respect ... boom ! |
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Triptocoma
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 22:08
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Global Tnet - you should try different methods to eliminate the ones that dont work for you and to find those who do work for you...
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WAVELOGIX
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 23:33
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yes sure man ...
i look forward to release in some time and im still freakin struggling on how to find an efficient way of working ....
some times i think y did i spend soo much time wid fruity loops .... but then i think i should look @ wat i have now and take it on frm here ....
the main problem i have working with nuendo / sx is tht my speed becomes very slow and even my ideas and work flow becomes bad .....
i know the softwares completrly well /// but maybe i just need to spend more time with them and things should eventually pay off in the end ...
neways ... all u guys and ths forum just rock !!!
keep the love and good vibes commin'
respect ... boom ! |
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ThiagoNAKA
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Posted : Oct 21, 2004 01:06
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sms u only loose quality ... whn while bouncing to audio u bounce to 16 bit ...
always bounce to 32 bit floatin and it continues to sound as good !
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Nice info! I bounce midi tracks as 16 bits, never tried on 32 float. Hope my music gets better now! 
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 21, 2004 04:41
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WAVELOGIX
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Posted : Oct 21, 2004 09:28
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colin mate .. im talking abt the 30 percent cpu power left , before i begin mixing my trk ........
so thts the whole issue ....
when am i getting my dsp card ... i always wonder !
resepct ... boom ! |
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ThiagoNAKA
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Posted : Oct 21, 2004 13:04
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Hey Colin, what do u mean by "really quiet"? Btw, when bouncing, I turn off all fx´s and eq´s, so do u think 24 bits is enough?
And GTN, I´m with Colin. 30% is far enough for mixing the track. If u still think to put more fx´s, more tracks... So I think u didn´t finish the track yet! 
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TuK
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Posted : Oct 21, 2004 13:31
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i didnt get why mixing takes cpu power,
i eq ,comp, and put effects while im building my track and just adjust it better in the mix. |
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