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Psycherelic
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Posted : Jul 7, 2004 16:34
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Without numbers it's pretty hard to gauge though...
I'm completely small-fry in the scene, but I do know that in my experience, artists have charged airfare on top of their fees. It may also be the case that some do and some don't.
I think the admin costs of Boom will be significantly higher than your festival, simply because of the number of people expected to come, so I don't see it as a 'money-grubbing' thing on their part.
One final thing, while everyone's entitled to their opinion and you're perfectly entitled to promote your festival. don't you think it's a bit unfair to do it at the expense of others? |
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karmaceutical
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Posted : Jul 7, 2004 17:00
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my view on this (short,due to lack of time)
-100€ IS expensive!!!(that's why i got my ticket for €70...)
-I like the line-up in general(though I'm not familiar with some of the names involved...)But Atmos,Peter Didjital,Emok,J.Monro,ManMadeMan,Rastaliens,Space Tribe,Tristan,Antaro,Pena,Paulo,Dmitri,D-nox(really really eager to see him...),etc will provide me(and a couple thousand more...)with excellent music...wanna bet?
-I have no confirmation on that but my GUESS is that Goodmood are having money problems...the cancelation of Goa Gil's party didn't help...(and there you can talk about a LOT of money! €20 entrance for one party with... Goa Gil???  pure robbery in my book!!! ) so,therefore we're getting a 'cheaper' line up...
-of course I would love to see names like Safi Conenction,Son Kite,Orion,Mumbo Jumbo,Cosmosis,Human Blue,Beat Bizarre,Saiko Pod,etc...but then,at least the same old names aren't in the menu this time...
I just had this 'argument' with a friend last friday...who was saying that this line up was shameful( regarding the tickets prices')
I admit he's partly right BUT I can only answer that...after the Festival!!!
'cause if we get a not very expensive line up but if we can see that the money we spent has gone for a brilliant sounsdsystem (??) , lots of shadows,specially on the dancefloor(PLEASE,don't neglect that like in 2002!),water everywhere,good camping conditions(showers,toilletes,cloakroom,parking security,etc)....then,hey!I won't complain about the price of the ticket,instead,will be the 1rst to congratulate the Org.
if not....
cya all there!!
-Mohamed Al Sayaf (weren't you at MAD last friday??hehehe) , don't know about yogurts but €2 for one small(20cl),shitty,hot and dead beer(Sagres,for god's sake!!!) was a fact in 2002
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essbee
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Posted : Jul 7, 2004 17:19
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Man - Dark Nebula rock this world - as do Rinkadink, Hydraphonic and others - I reckon if they have got the sound right, then we are in for a rocking old time. As for shadows, I know what you mean as Samothraki had no shadow on the dance floor whatsoever and I almost passed out from heat exhaustion on the third day..... |
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daksinamurti
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Posted : Jul 7, 2004 17:58
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cant complain about the lineup has many artist that are not too often in europe. |
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Analog Xperience
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Posted : Jul 7, 2004 18:22
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eheheh .. this is a real chance for many good artist that are not knowed to be more knowed to the outside lands  ..
lets rock |
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Mohamed Al Sayaf
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Posted : Jul 7, 2004 22:09
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Karmaceutical, in fact, you are a freek!
Yes, i was there!
About the beer prices:
20cl of beer costs about 30/35 cents i believe (or maybe less)
asking 2 euros is having a profit of: 1.5 (+ -) in each beer
how many beers will boom sell during the festival?
to me none, i'll take mine, and advise everyone to do the same!
Is this for the spirit? Oh Yeah! shanti shanti!
It could help a best line up...lolololol |
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Jingabé
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Posted : Jul 7, 2004 23:31
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20cl of beer costs about 30/35 cents i believe (or maybe less)
asking 2 euros is having a profit of: 1.5 (+ -) in each beer
how many beers will boom sell during the festival?
to me none, i'll take mine, and advise everyone to do the same!
Is this for the spirit? Oh Yeah! shanti shanti!
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MAN, this never-ending discussion is getting so lame... How much do you pay for a beer when you go out? 40 cents? Maybe if go get them at the supermarket...
Money this, money that... what the hell do you people want? Free festival, with free beer, free drugs (how much do you pay for them hum?) free everything...
WAKE UP!!! This is the real world. Your dream world of the happy comunity living together and of the offerings of the earth is nothing but that a dream. Well, I conceed that it is a reality to a small minority, who choosed to live like that, but had to gave up many things we take for granted.
Don't agree with the price, that's fine. Don't go. Go somewhere else and stop bitching about Boom Festival. What a bunch of sissies 
P.S.: I've heard that goodmood is charging 50 cents for each piece of 20 cm toilett paper, so you pseudo-communist-freaks better not eat (and with the food being soooooo expensive). Stick to water from the lake (which is free, yeeeaaahhhhh!!!  ) |
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Dovla
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Posted : Jul 8, 2004 01:48
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money makes the world go round...and money is what people will need to get to the festival...that's a fact...it's not a pretty one but that's how the entire planet works...some people can't afford it...some just don't want to...so why must you people act as if there is some hate for the organisers...can't some of us act critical and not get our heads smashed in...I mean come on...if most of us feel that the lineup isn't what we hoped for than we have a right to express it..it's not like we're cursing each other and fighting like crazy...I've seen fights that are 50 times worse than this discussion...the trance scene covers pretty much the entire planet..and there are countries with really high standards and those with really low ones...the same goes for musical tastes and styles...it's just crazy to expect that everyone will say the price is cheap and the lineup is fantastic...so why can't everyone give out their oppinion and not be judged by someone who has a different perspective on things.
I respect your view that the price is normal and the lineup is great and you respect my view that the price is too high and the lineup bad...and we'll reach a conclusion together...but not by judging and cursing each other 
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Analog Xperience
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Posted : Jul 8, 2004 01:57
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jingabé ehehehe
its sad .. but almost of this freaks that hide themself saying this craps .. are potuguese ppl .. that's it what i said its sad :\
they prefer to pay 2 euros on outher party .. but in boom no .. pff lololol
what we can do for this guy's ? nothig , so let them talking !
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Analog Xperience
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Posted : Jul 8, 2004 02:01
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how and dovla big respect to u nice words .. at least somebody see things with outher eyes eheh
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DETOX
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Posted : Jul 8, 2004 02:23
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Psycherelic numbers dont matter trust me
And trust me 90% of the artists have a standard price fee that they ask no matter where they have to fly to.Usa and Australia might be the only exceptions though since the trips from Europe are very expensive.
By the way i am not organising any festival at all,Kaiafas Festival is not mine and i am not trying to promote anything here,i was not the one that mentioned Kaiafas in the first place if you check the first posts,it was Uvego that did if i remember correctly
Have fun mate!
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Scherzo
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Posted : Jul 8, 2004 09:58
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I was in Samothraki last year and I have to say that was the best festival I attempted in my whole life. So I told myself that I shouldn't miss in 2004 a new edition of the Boom festival in Portugal. But I don't know now if I will going to make the trip this year. The main reason why I'm still asking myself weither or not I'm going to be there is that I had much more expectation about the line-up.
Because I come from Canada and because I have to pay a lot of money to get there, for me the line-up is very important to make a trip like that. And I must say that I'm a bit disapointed that there is almost only "dark psy-trance" act. I don't see any diversity in the line-up !
I was expecting pretty bad to make this festival this year, but I'm not sure at all if I should go on. I'm sure Boom must be one of the best festival this year, but I'm kind of turned off because I would of like to hear at least one of this band : Altöm, Logic Bomb, Silicon Sound, GMS, Eskimo, Audialize, Sesto Sento, Simon Posford, Pop Stream or so on ...
At least there is Rinkadink, Digital Talk and Shift. But it seams not enough for me. Maybe it's not musically perfect for me ? I know that ain't a festival like the other one in Europe, but here in Canada the party are small and there is few big names coming at once. So when I go to Europe for partying I expect much more about the line-up of one of the biggest psy-event of the year.
That's why I'm still septic about if I should go or not. For me Samothraki was almost perfect, so I just don't know if Portugal is the right trip for me this year ?
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Psycherelic
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Posted : Jul 8, 2004 12:27
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And I must say that I'm a bit disapointed that there is almost only "dark psy-trance" act. I don't see any diversity in the line-up ! |
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You're right in that most of the morning music is provided by the DJs rather than the live acts (examples: Chicago, P_mac) - but is that necessarily a bad thing?
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Personally I think GMS and Eskimo are seriously overrated - I've rarely been less inclined to dance than during the 3 Eskimo sets I've seen this year.
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And Space Tribe. And Hyperfrequencies.
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For me Samothraki's mostly about bad Israeli pop music - my personal taste does lean towards the dark side of full-on and a bit of progressive in the morning and afternoon.
Maybe it's not for you (which is fair enough), but it's certainly good for me and many of my friends. That's not what annoyed me, so much as this "Waah, GMS and Astrix aren't there, GoodMood must be trying to screw us out of money!" attitude on here - in a scene which is supposed to be open-minded about music, no less! The whole claim that "The line-up is bad, so everyone isn't coming" is not only untrue, but it's really unfair. Everyone I know is *very* up for it!
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karmaceutical
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Posted : Jul 8, 2004 13:27
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Analog....since you came up with the €2 story...I assume you're talking about me,since i brought up the beer price at boom 2002...
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On 2004-07-08 01:57, Analog Xperience wrote:
"jingabé ehehehe
its sad .. but almost of this freaks that hide themself saying this craps "
-I don't hide from anything or anyone...don't have any reasons to do so!!anytime you want to meet for a drink or to discuss anything trance related or not,let me know ...
as for crap...the beer was crap!!one of the girls that was working @ the bars in 2002,a long time Good Mood helper and friend was the first to admit that the quality of the beer was terrible and that the profit from selling it was enormous!...and as you well know, GM always has this Mama Gaia/fractalic/cosmic brotherhood speach which doesn't have anything to do with the commercial spirit they show selling drinks.If their drinks suppliers don't get them decent equipment and bigger glasses (??!??) it's not our fault,is it? (I drank 4 beers in 2002's Boom...under different conditions,I would have drunk 10 or 20...everybody's loss,I guess..) -
".. are potuguese ppl .. that's it what i said its sad :"
-what,if a german or australian guy came here and said exactly the same wouldn't be sad?why's that?do i have to agree to something I consider wrong just because it was made by portuguese people?tss tss-
"they prefer to pay 2 euros on outher party .. but in boom no .. pff lololol"
-don't talk about you don't know,ok?how can you say that I pay 2€ at other parties?do you have any ideas to which parties I attend?
the excessive prices for parties and almost everything related , considering the quality of the same,is one of the reasons that made me avoid more and more goin' there.
I work a lot to get my money and don't like to throw it away like that!-
"what we can do for this guy's ? nothig , so let them talking !"
-well,guess you could do a hell of a set for me when I get a chance to see you! fair enough?
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just one more thing...
I'll attend Boom with an open heart,like I always do. But also with open eyes!
And it will be a great event,with loads of wonderful moments
Greetings to everyone and see you there!!!
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chamaso
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Posted : Jul 8, 2004 13:36
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cheers
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