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astrotec
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 10:23
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i'd have to go for bombfactory whos with me? Quality plugins, that fairchild sure is a fat comnpressor. |
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 11:49
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Bombfactory is RTAS/ TDM only
I would definitly go for UAD, because the plugins are cheaper, same concept, but you get all in all for the same price much DSP power with it.
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 11:55
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I'm not quite sure... Are those bombfactory native (don't require a DSP card) plugins that run on Protools ? I think the BombFactory Fairchild 670 is pretty expensive compared to the UAD-1 solution: for about the same price you can get the UAD-1 Fairchild and the UAD DSP card.
Anywayz, of course the Fairchild is a fat compressor, but even though it's absurdly expensive in it's hardware form it's not ultra flexible and i only use it for a few specific chores. I think the UAD-1's LA2A and the LN1176 are very useful additions that really complement the Fairchild.
By the way, also check the Voxengo and PSP compressors and saturation plugs, those are also very good and very usable.
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astrotec
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 12:21
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yes bombfactory run in protools and it requires a protools soundcard.i'm on about for mastering perpuses only btw, and i'm not on about the price, i'm on about sound quality that they produce only. |
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 13:04
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Then the only way to be sure is to A/B them on good speakers, maybe in a good musicstore. Both Universal Audio and Bomb Factory claim they've captured every detail of the original. I know that i like the sound of UAD-1 version (a lot), but since i don't have a real Fairchild nor a Bomb Factory one lying around i can't check whether it's comparable. Maybe it's all a bunch of corporate lies 
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PoM
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 13:08
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go for hardware if you re not about the price but the sound quality.if you re used to compressors like marquis,sonalksys or psp not sure you ll have a big jump in quality with other plugs. |
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astrotec
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 13:33
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i'm not on about the hardware i don't have $30000. |
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 13:45
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A good hardware compressor for Mastering like cranesong STC-8 or Manley VariMu you will get for about 3500-4000 USD (in US).
And there is no way to compare that to plugins.
Anyway, plugins:
Assuming the soundquality of UAD and Bombfactory is similar I would definitly go for UAD. price, hardware, additional plugs etc. it's just the better deal. With all digidesign you pay for it's exclusivelity too.
Try www.gearslutz.com it's a good forum. There hang a lot guys around who will be able (since they tried it) to tell you which plugin emulations, uad or bombfactory sound better for them.
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astrotec
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 14:26
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why can't you compare them? the manley is a copy, the softwares emulations, isn't that the comparison, and i suppose its a question of how good the emulation actually is compared to it? |
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 15:21
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I had the chance to compare emulation to hardware and emulation to emulation.
I could compare a LA2A to the UAD emulation and to the Focusrite emulation. UAD and Focusrite just sound so different, I wouldn't even know for sure that its ment to be the same emulation (both sound good though, UAD better)
The original LA2A sounded very different again and in my ears again better and more pleasant.
I have a CraneSong STC-8, its an analog compressor. I also have the UAD-1 with fairchild, 1176, Neve comps. the emulation all sound nice, but NONE of them has that "analog glue" which the STC-8 puts on a mix. it just sounds so much more liquid.
It's not important if the manley is a copy (it still has its own characterisitc anyways) it's important that the audio signal becomes an electron beam within the tubes, or the signal is send through silizium layers etc.
Whatever you do with emulation, ITS DIGITAL. I like it, you can do very good stuff, but it is NEVER ANALOG.
HighEnd Analoggear just has something plugins don't have and the other way round.
You can do a lot with plugins. You can do more than enough and produce perfectly sounding music and all.
But if you want to go really high with quality and are looking for compressor or eqs you have to go for analog gear. or at least high end digital stuff like Weiss or so.
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astrotec
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 20:40
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if it was to be done 100% digital, would it not b as loud? |
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astrotec
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 21:48
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i think its not the equipment its the sound engineer that uses using it. |
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 22:19
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On 2007-04-27 21:48, astrotec wrote:
i think its not the equipment its the sound engineer that uses using it.
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Thats definitly true, so you don't have to worry wether to buy UAD or Bombfactory. Since it will depend all to you anyway.
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if it was to be done 100% digital, would it not b as loud? |
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If it's only about loudness. Yes you can certainly reach as much loudness. but a compressor and mastering is more than that.
Most of my music for you to download at:
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astrotec
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 23:01
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thanks for the info. i think i will get my engineer to try both, he has a friend who hires outboard equipment from time to time, and he says he has good enough focusrite converters to send it outboard. it would be interesting to hear the difference.oh and aren't the nomads emulations of the emulations? |
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astrotec
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Posted : Apr 28, 2007 23:49
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I know that the bombfactory has a look ahead feature on it. |
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