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Freeflow
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Posted : Nov 9, 2009 17:40
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The only way is to try and in that way you practice...
Maybe those try outs actually end up being the tracks..
Maybe not think so much on what you want to do but get into the flow while you create and just go with it....
But to find flow you must have a frame in which you know what needs to be done
"Flow tends to occur when a person faces a clear set of goals that require appropriate responses. It is easy to enter flow in games such as chess, tennis, or poker, because they have goals and rules that make it possible for the player to act without questioning what should be done, and how. For the duration of the game the player lives in a self-contained universe where everything is black and white. The same clarity of goals is present if you perform a religious ritual, play a musical piece, weave a rug, write a computer program, climb a mountain, or perform surgery. In contrast to normal life, these "flow activities" allow a person to focus on goals that are clear and compatible, and provide immediate feedback."
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199707/finding-flow
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makus
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Posted : Nov 9, 2009 18:46
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On 2009-11-09 17:40, Freeflow wrote:
In contrast to normal life, these "flow activities" allow a person to focus on goals that are clear and compatible, and provide immediate feedback.
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Freeflow
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Posted : Nov 10, 2009 01:52
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On 2009-11-09 17:40, Freeflow wrote:
In contrast to normal life, these "flow activities" allow a person to focus on goals that are clear and compatible, and provide immediate feedback.
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Yeah sometimes the goals are not so clear and compatible...
But still sometimes you get this flow in music making until you get to a point where the flow has a end and you need to do the best with what you have... sometimes you ruin the flow you had by changing too much..
I think flow in music will translate well...
it can be flow in ideas aswell and how you get them to work is another story, maybe even a very difficult one without any flow at all...but in the end your ideas and hard work translate to a great flow of music... so it can come in many shapes and forms this flow thing.. But the true meaning of flow is when you ride the wave...
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Axis Mundi
Axis Mundi
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Posted : Nov 10, 2009 02:49
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I know this sounds cliche but maybe you should focus on creating your own style and then go from there  I think once you pick and choose some methods for creating sounds YOU like, it will be very easy at that point to adapt those techniques to producing a certain genre
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Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine
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Posted : Nov 12, 2009 22:21
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On 2009-11-05 20:30, PoM wrote:
maybe try to make a track with all the cheesy cliché ,might be fun to produce, make the cheesiest track ever haha i doubt you can beat electro sun
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Hey friend
Trys my best be sound CHEEEEZY .
This fullon is realy difficult :)
Here the result :
http://forum.isratrance.com/digital-universe-orchestra-project/
Thx for the good advice . Yoko .
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Andrew
Voice Of Cod / Zuloop
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Posted : Nov 13, 2009 15:47
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On 2009-11-05 20:15, aciduss wrote:
Man fullon is easy... just copy any of the 90% of israel act's recipe... select a cheesy chord progression and create 4 bar evolving melody arpeggio automat cutoff and take it to high speed buildup with lots of machinegunery kick retriger.
The rest is just a mix of abusing of Vengeance synth shots and rendering part of your melodies and chords for those initial and ending progressions.
Lots of airy pads and voices for bridges, also dont forget to glitch every fill/break at bar 16.
Well it is not that easy but is not that hard either...
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I really like the way you broke it down here. Great.
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Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine
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Posted : Oct 15, 2011 10:26
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Fullon - So eazy to do that its become complicated . Ill never understand why fullon artists always limiting themself by runing with the same hh loops From beginning to the end .. Why .. ? Who said this must be ? This is 'Lazy' work thats all , Ok so the bass is light and the kik is tight but why annoying the ppls ? So you afraid change the rhythm in the middle or what .. And why ? Thats realy interesting me .. Or this is the style and there nothing to do about ? Pls let me know , Thx !
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orgytime
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Posted : Oct 15, 2011 14:00
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for me its lazyness and the HHs are just a supporting
element... but definately worth to spend more energy
to HH´s.
cheers
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knocz
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Posted : Oct 15, 2011 14:32
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Well, it's kinda hard to get an expressive drums sound when you don't have the drums (physical equipment)..
There are tons of techniques to get a flow going on the hats, specially using multiple samples, but I believe the dynamics are a little to harsh and difficult to sound "real" or to improvise..
With a real high hat a (good) drummer can do a simple tic tic tic tic tic tic tssssstic and sound amazing (just using two sounds,open and closed).
What I'd like to have it some real high hats and mic me playing with that. Two simple brass plates laid one on top of each other, with a sustain? pedal in between. You can get so much different sounds with this, and get into grooves easily.. the problem about high hats and drums? Not much people have the setup to be expressive and improvise with the drums..
Don't get me wrong: there have been millions of successful cases of drum programming with a mouse, but it's not as easy to play or to differentiate. I hate making drums with the mouse.
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Oct 15, 2011 16:18
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On 2009-11-05 19:38, Cardinals Cartel wrote:
Zork .. The prob is that i cant listen to fullon at all (I hate this style from the base) but at the same time i want to produce her , This is an conflict , I know , But deep inside of me this is somthing i want to do .
10Q .
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Why would you want to make music you do not like? Seem very odd to me.
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Upavas
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Posted : Oct 16, 2011 00:21
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Yoko, bro, I start kb, kinda like Colin said, then before I do the main lead, I put in a resonance lead, kinda more in the background, heavy automation, grubby, then everything ekse, and finally pretty much at the end before the fx sometimes after I listen the whole thing and then get an inspiration for a melody , which I keep as simple as possible, that for me avoids the cheesiness that can easily enter with too much lead melody. Try to modulate the scales, that makes it mote interesting and helps getting you a more pronounced (question and answer) phrasing... I hope this helps bro. Good luck !
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faxinadu
Faxi Nadu / Elmooht
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Posted : Oct 16, 2011 02:21
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On 2009-11-09 17:40, Freeflow wrote:
"Flow tends to occur when a person faces a clear set of goals that require appropriate responses. It is easy to enter flow in games such as chess, tennis, or poker, because they have goals and rules that make it possible for the player to act without questioning what should be done, and how. For the duration of the game the player lives in a self-contained universe where everything is black and white. The same clarity of goals is present if you perform a religious ritual, play a musical piece, weave a rug, write a computer program, climb a mountain, or perform surgery. In contrast to normal life, these "flow activities" allow a person to focus on goals that are clear and compatible, and provide immediate feedback."
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199707/finding-flow
My best flow experiences is in drumming and snowboarding...
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nice read. mine is super mario brothers 3 and dr. mario. used to feel this in pacman but lost the magic.
The Way Back
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Equilizyme
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Posted : Oct 16, 2011 02:36
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I think to find the melody or whatever you are looking for just bounce your incomplete track to audio, snag it out of whatever directory and toss it on your mp3 player.
Now go for a walk outside in your favorite place, woods, beach, prairie, whatever you like/have. Bring your cell phone with you but turn off the ringer. Listen to your incomplete track like 3x in a row, then pull your headphones out of your ears but keep singing the tune in your head while you're walking around. Look at all the cool stuff around you and keep singing the song in your head, then let me music in your head evolve slowly, let new sounds, rhythms, melodies or anything enter into this 'in your head composition'. Then when you stumble upon something you like, bust out the voice recording feature of your cell phone and hum or whistle this composed melody into your phone so you can remember it later.
I try to do this every day, so by the end of the day I have like 5 or so 10 or 15 second recordings on my phone, then I go home and spend some time listening to them and incorporating them into the track I am working on.
This method works well for me and I also find that it is a pretty good method of capturing my emotions in a track. The track that I have made using this or similar methods usually turn out to be my favorite because they have the most soul.
Hope this is relevant to the thread.
Equilizyme
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